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Old 09-23-2016, 08:08 AM
 
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I started researching area's about 4 years ago. I was looking for a home on the water, but then Sandy hit and a lot of the homes I looked at were gone.. So, then it back to square one in my search. We found a state where taxes wouldn't kill us if we made under a certain amount so I concentrated my search there, but then we found out that hubby will be receiving more retirement income that we can counted on so the taxes would be a lot higher, and now I'm back to searching again. He's due to retire in a few months. Hubby and I have always been on the same page since we've been married, but when it comes to retirement we both have different ideas on area's and homes.

I hate it but I think I have to accept the fact that I'll probably never move off this darn island unless I go without him.
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Old 09-23-2016, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Northern panhandle WV
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I started looking five years out from husband's proposed retirement date. I was living in CA at the the time and was going to be moving back to Cape Cod (my home) soon. I scoured the internet for houses in WV, VA, MD,and NC.
I was moving from Cape Cod because I had projected that in retirement we would be living off SS and that is all. So needed a cheap place, found it in WV. found a five bedroom 3 bath brick home with a brick garage for 38K. bought it in 2010 and moved here when he retired last December. We would come down about four times a year to check on the place and do some work on it. that was when we could still do things, we both have become disabled to the point we cannot do much of anything without help. So what you anticipate your retirement will be like and what actually happens can be very different.
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Old 09-23-2016, 03:25 PM
 
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... With just-under "300 Days" (calendar days) left for me until I retire, I can recall thinking about it, back in 2009 ... What was that? 7 - 8 years ago?

At this late date, we're still very-much undecided about to where we want to retire.
It's been a bit of a struggle for me to make my DW aware that we'd be "flushing" our hard-earned retirement dollars "down the drain", if we remain here, in North Cali.
That prompted our searches, using criteria like: "I want to be close to my kids & grandkids", and "Wherever we go, it needs to be 'affordable' for us".

For me, I'd love to go back to TEXAS, but that seems to be a little too-far-away from DW's Family.
For the most part, my Family is in TEXAS and along the Southeast Coast, so we're kind-of "between a rock and a hard place" with our searching ...

And so ... "the search goes on" ... ... Arizona - Colorado - New Mexico ... But "no farther East than Texas".
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Old 09-23-2016, 04:02 PM
 
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Given that you are a New Englander and seem to want a 4 season climate possibly without endless ice and snow, I would suggest you check out Bucks County, PA or Charlottesville, VA which is a college town.

If you aren't sure of what you want, and you have a good many years to decide, the best thing to do imo is take your vacations in areas that are possibilities and see how you like them.
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:11 PM
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Location: North Monterey County
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We will be essentially "going home" after I retire in a little over 2 years.

We cannot see ourselves living here in Utah. It's not "home" tho we do have a home here and have been here for 26 years now. There's no family here - just work.

We started in earnest looking about 5 or so years ago - Oregon, New Mexico, Colorado, etc.... not wanting to return to LA where my spouse is from - he really doesn't want to go back there. Nothing really clicked with us. I wanted to be close to family and familiar surroundings. My spouse wanted much better weather and connections to family and friends.

We are choosing the rural outskirts of northern California.

Finding the exact spot is proving to be challenging - yes, we do have time.... but we've not found a piece of land that answers all our questions. We do have a Plan B - buy a house and renovate it.....

Interestingly enough - we decided to come here to work - after only a couple of ski vacation visits. We don't ski anymore - and I will tell you that vacationers do not see the area like people who live here. You see all the good stuff when you're vacationing..... you don't see all the warts and problems.
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Old 09-24-2016, 04:35 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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We were hot on the carolinas after visiting a few times. We were all but set that was our spot. You can get so focused on moving that you forget to look around where you already are.
My wife does mortgages and started getting people coming back from the south. They were tired of the heat, humidity, congestion, crime, critters, life threatening storms and missed what they thought they wanted to escape.
We since realized that we like NE. The peacefulness, mountains, and slower pace of life fits us well. We are now looking east to Maine. My wife loves the ocean, there is plenty to see and do there, close to family and friends, and we'll go south for a few winter months to break it up. Some place different every winter will make it an adventure.
My advice is to not get so laser focused on money issues or weather but where can you feel at home and at peace? There is always a way money wise and weather can be fixed with some extended vacations during the worst of what you don't like.
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Old 09-24-2016, 05:13 AM
 
Location: Central Massachusetts
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Retirement for me is probably about 15 or so years away, but still these days, I can't help but think about where I might want to live someday. I seem to swing from retiring to Asheville, NC (I've never even been there!), or Cape Cod, or Maine, or staying in New Hampshire, perhaps even staying where I am now. I am a bit all over the place about it, but I figure, now is the time to start thinking about it anyway.

I am having some trouble narrowing down the elements of what I want in a retirement home or area. I know for sure that I do not want to live somewhere hot. I guess that I am the opposite from many retirees in that regard. I love New England, it's home to me, but it is more expensive than most other places too, so may or may not be friendly to a retirement fixed income. Also, I worry about dealing with ice and snow as an older person. The ideal thing would be to have a place in New England and be a snowbird, with a place to escape to in the South for the Winter months, but I'll need to figure out how financially viable that is. I do have a goal to have my place paid off by the time I retire, if I can continue my career and income on the path it's on it should be doable.

Anyway, all these thoughts and scenarios are swirling around in my brain so I thought I would reach out and see if others might want to share their stories of how they made their decisions on where to spend their retirement. How did you decide? How did it work out for you?
Well to tell you the truth it is never to early to think about retirement. That goes for where and when and how to afford it. I and my wife discussed this off and on over the years of our marriage. Usually it was just random thoughts and the occasional "Hey this island sounds great!" Or I wonder if we would like to live in Florida or any particular state or location. It is all part of the process of life. Life is continuous so as we go from day to day or month to month we have a change in perspectives and we think "okay maybe this might be better".

Well the wife and I are right on the retirement edge. I have entered it she is still working for a bit more. We began seriously thinking about it about 10 years ago as to what we would like to do when it is just us. We have only one child and no grand children (yet). No prospects for them either but.... our plans could change in an instant. It is good to be flexible so keep that in mind.

For us we are certain of only one thing. We have to downsize and move to a more maintenance free situation as we get older. Originally we were thinking selling the big house we own and buying a smaller one in cash but things are changing a bit as we see the effects of aging on our bodies. Plus we have the resources if we are not tied down to a house to see and travel extensively. Renting furnished or unfurnished lodging in locations around the globe for us sounds fun. But as I said it could change should we have a grandchild or two come around. Kind of hard to spoil grandkids from halfway around the world.

So I just want to point out that it is important to keep thinking on it but don't become hard and fast to one particular place or idea. Your question is basically what brought me to C-D years ago as I was searching in earnest and wanted to learn from all of these wonderful folks here.
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Old 09-24-2016, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I did it backwards. I first looked for my retirement location and then I decided to retire and when. As a renter, I also considered when my lease would be up so I could minimize paying month to month (more expensive) after my yearly lease expired.

I started researching locations 1 year and 3 months before I retired and visited the first and only place I rejected after visiting about 10 months before I retired. That was a worthwhile visit. It helped to cement what I did and didn't want that I hadn't considered before. For me, the biggest factors I hadn't considered before, and which were important to me, turned out to be population density (number of people per square mile in the town) which is not the same as population and visitors/tourists/snowbirds (think traffic).

Visited the town I settled on 5 months before I retired. Came home and told my boss when I was retiring and then I had to wait until the suburban apartment complex I was moving into was finished being built which turned out to be 6 weeks after I retired.

Every few years I modify and post this suggestion:

How to Research Retirement Relocation

Moving in retirement is not just about fleeing the perceived intolerable conditions (examples: snow, taxes, high cost of living, traffic, etc.) in the town you are leaving. It’s also not just about pretty, cheap and good weather in the new town. It’s about moving to a new place that offers you things to do when you will be home now for a big chunk of time in the daytime. How are you going to fill up a 40 hour former work week with other daytime activities? Don't compromise because of cheap and pretty. Example: If you like to go to plays and ethnic restaurants frequently, don't move near the ocean or to the mountains just because it's pretty there or it's cheap, if you have to drive 30 - 50 miles to do the things you like to do.

1. The very first thing you should figure out is what’s important to you. It shouldn’t just be the anti-intolerable condition because a few months after you are settled in the new place, you’ll be asking yourself, “Is that all there is?” You may take some things for granted and not realize they are important to you because you’ve always had them. Sometimes you don't discover what's important to you until you visit a place that's not suitable.

2. For the things you like to do and the things you like to have, the new place should offer those things in the abundance, variety and quality that you are used to having.

3. When doing online research, compare the data for where you live now to the places you are considering because you know what it feels like where you live now. Data is good to figure out if the potential new place is better/worse or has more/less or is less expensive/more expensive than what you are used to. Use research to make your visits to potential new retirement locations more productive. Instead of driving around from town to town like a chicken without its head on a one week visit, use research to rule out towns that are absolutely not right for you before you visit, so you can spend more time in the towns that have a better potential to be right for you.

4. When you ask questions in a forum like City Data’s state forums, ask specific question that won’t elicit a feelings response. Examples: “Do you get a lot of snow?” and "Is the town overcrowded?" are not good questions. A responder formerly from Florida may think 6 inches is a lot of snow and a responder formerly from Minnesota might think 2 feet of snow isn’t much. Instead ask something like, “How many inches of snow do you get a year?” so you are the one deciding if it’s too much snow, not the responder. “Is the town overcrowded?” may get a different response from a person formerly from Chicago versus a person formerly from Smalltown, USA. So ask, “What’s the population density (population divided by square miles) of town XYZ?” so you can decide if it’s too crowded instead of the responder. Compare the answers to where you live now.

5. Subscribe to the local newspaper or read it on line for at least 6 months. Specifically read the local/community news, the community calendar of events and the town planning information. What do people do in the town for fun? Does it sound like your idea of fun? What's important to the people in the town? Are they the same things that are important to you? Does the town celebrate traditional holidays or are their fairs/festivals generic? Is either important to you? What kind of crime is in the town and where is it? Mark the street map you picked up from your visit (see item 8). Are they planning to widen the road or build a new school, hotel or mall around the corner from that house you were considering? (If you are considering a big city for your new location, skip this tip.)

6. If you want to know what’s in a town (stores, restaurants, government facilities, hospitals), you can check the online yellow pages for that town and then research the websites of those places.

7. If you are relocating to escape some intolerable condition don't overcompensate. Just because you can't stand traffic, rude people and crowded conditions in your current city of 800,000 it doesn't mean you are well-suited to ABC Mountain Town, population 2,000. It will feel like paradise for the first 3 weeks then what do you do with yourself? Consider a smaller city than where you live now. Just because you are trying to escape shoveling snow, doesn’t mean you’ll be happy with 6 months of 90 to 100 degree temperatures.

8. When you visit, don't visit like a tourist, visit like a potential future resident. Visit the supermarkets and clothing stores. Do they have what you like (products, brands)? If you are religious, attend a service. If you like to golf, play while you are visiting. When you are in your hotel room, watch the local nightly news show. If you can attend a local event do it and take a look at the people. Do they look/act like your type of people? If you like to garden, visit the local nursery and look around. If you like to read, visit the library and bookstores. Do they have the variety of the type of books you like? Are the books new enough to suit you? Buy a street map at the local gas station convenience store and mark it with your observations while you are driving around. (Example: the run down part of town/the traffic congested part of town). Bring a camera/camera phone.

9. Going on vacation to a town is not the same as living in that town no matter how many years you've visited. Driving 30 miles down a mountain road in July to go to an annual fair is not the same as driving down the same icy mountain road in January to go to the supermarket every week. What time of the day are you most likely to be out doing things? If you are a night person and the town shuts down at 6PM in the off-season maybe the town isn't right for you even though you spent the last 10 years vacationing there for 2 weeks in July. That pretty beach place in July may have roads prone to flooding in September. How would your spouse fare solo in the potential new location, if something should happen to you?

10. If you see a house or apartment you might consider, go sit in your car and observe the area at night when kids are home from school and adults are home from work. Maybe, after people get home from work and kids get home from school, the nice quiet place is really noisy.

11. Assess your potential town and home in terms of the impact of up and down fuel prices. Maybe living 20 miles from the things you like to do often, is not such a good idea, Maybe oil is a bad heating choice. Maybe unloading a home heated that way will be difficult 5 - 10 years from now. Maybe you can afford a McMansion after you sell your house up north but will you be able to unload the potential home when you're ready to leave if it's oil heated, for example?

12. If you are close to your family ask yourself, "If I move to be near my children, am I sure they are staying put?" If you plan to return "home" for frequent visits, where's the airport? How close are you to the Interstates? How long is the drive? How expensive is the air fare?

13. Don't be discouraged about retirement based on what you see in retirement destination magazines or retirement books. The magazines are trying to sell things to upper middle class people (by their advertisers). Ask yourself when was the last time you read a retirement magazine that told you how great the hunting was in Town X or how many baseball diamonds there were in town, how the bass fishing is, or where you can see bluegrass and country bands play in the park? If you came from outer space and read retirement magazines you'd think the only things important to all retirees are museums, marinas, the theater, shopping and golf. There are plenty of both kind of places but the magazines only address one kind of retirement. Also, consider that a lot of retirement book authors live in big cities. What you consider to be a great retirement may never have even occurred to them to address in their books.

14. How hard is it to get a doctor to take you as a new patient? Specialists for a condition you might have? Find out before you move. Where's the hospital if you already have a serious condition?

15. Use YouTube and the "Google Images" search engine to see videos and images of the towns you are considering. Note: Google images https://images.google.com/ is a search engine that just looks for photos/images on a page where your key words are mentioned so along with the correct images you are searching for, you may get others that have nothing to do with what you want. Example: You image search for Maintown, OH but on the same webpage that houses photos of the town, there is also a photo of the mayor. Both images may come up in the results.
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Old 09-24-2016, 10:16 AM
 
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Laura C,


Great advice. Finally, you have given us a full compilation of your advice over the years. There is NOT one point that is NOT relevant.

Although we did not end up as neighbors - although your town DID receive some serious consideration as my retirement destination.

#14 is a good point. What you need to also add id whether they practice the type of medicine that you would prefer. For example, in IL, I was always seen by a physician. In AZ, for the same procedures, I am seeing a paraprofessional.

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On a semi-related note, I cannot believe the number of people who move cross-country and buy a home without doing the most basic research on the area.
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Old 09-24-2016, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Laura C,


Great advice. Finally, you have given us a full compilation of your advice over the years. There is NOT one point that is NOT relevant.

Although we did not end up as neighbors - although your town DID receive some serious consideration as my retirement destination.

#14 is a good point. What you need to also add id whether they practice the type of medicine that you would prefer. For example, in IL, I was always seen by a physician. In AZ, for the same procedures, I am seeing a paraprofessional.

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On a semi-related note, I cannot believe the number of people who move cross-country and buy a home without doing the most basic research on the area.
Thank you. You know what is funny (not really)? When those same people complain that the people in the new town are stupid. Who just spent a lot of money relocating to a place for which they were so ill suited? Not the locals.

What exactly is a paraprofessional in the medical field? Is it the same as a nurse practitioner?

Arizona is one of the states I have never been to. I didn't consider it for retirement because of the heat and it's too far for a drive to see my sister or friends in NY. I don't fly anymore.

Speaking of heat, tomorrow looks like our last day of 90 degree temperatures. Woohoo!
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