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Old 09-04-2019, 01:31 PM
 
Location: East TN
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Turns out it was Benadryl. Talked to her this morning and she's doing better. I'm sick and working from home today, took a Benadryl last night, and I was bug-eyed all night.
Usually for me Benadryl has a sleepy effect and I actually use it for that purpose when I'm wide awake and need to sleep, but once in a great while it will have the opposite effect. It's really weird.
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Old 09-04-2019, 01:33 PM
 
Location: East TN
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Benadryl is for allergies, not for a cold.
Benadryl is not just for allergies, it's also used as a decongestant. It is often used in cold meds, including Nyquil. Check the label for diphenhydramine, that's the generic name for Benadryl.
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Old 09-04-2019, 01:36 PM
 
Location: East TN
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Here's a useful chart that explains why some medications should be avoided in the elderly if possible:

https://www.uth.tmc.edu/hgec/GemsAnd...sCriteria.html

For Benadryl (diphenhydramine), the caution reads:

Sedating and strongly anti-cholinergic; promote delirium, falls, urinary retention, dry mouth, constipation; use of diphenhydramine may be appropriate for acute treatment of severe allergic reactions

The warning about Benadryl came out because many people were misusing it as a sleep aid. However, it is safe to use Benadryl infrequently to combat an allergic reaction. Indeed, many people owe their lives to it.

Just don't pop one every night because you can't sleep.
Many OTC sleep aids consist solely of Benadryl (diphenhydramine). Check the label.
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Old 09-04-2019, 01:42 PM
 
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Consider finding your grandmother a gerontologist instead of a family practitioner. There really is a difference.

Great suggestion.......biggest problem is they are difficult to find.

I think those who specialize in Geriatrics are around 7,000 last I knew.

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Old 09-04-2019, 03:32 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Here's a useful chart that explains why some medications should be avoided in the elderly if possible:

https://www.uth.tmc.edu/hgec/GemsAnd...sCriteria.html

For Benadryl (diphenhydramine), the caution reads:

Sedating and strongly anti-cholinergic; promote delirium, falls, urinary retention, dry mouth, constipation; use of diphenhydramine may be appropriate for acute treatment of severe allergic reactions

The warning about Benadryl came out because many people were misusing it as a sleep aid. However, it is safe to use Benadryl infrequently to combat an allergic reaction. Indeed, many people owe their lives to it.

Just don't pop one every night because you can't sleep.
Yes, I forgot to say in my post that it was the regular use of anticholinergics that was found to be associated with dementia in seniors. Occasional use may be OK. Just not every night.
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Old 09-04-2019, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Redwood City, CA
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Many OTC sleep aids consist solely of Benadryl (diphenhydramine). Check the label.
Not my point.

People were using it every night to get to sleep, whether they needed it or not. Much the same way I used to take a couple of ibuprofen in the morning, even though I had had no pain yet that day.

I managed to break myself of that habit a couple of months ago. There doesn't seem to be any permanent damage to my kidneys.
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Old 09-05-2019, 07:09 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Benadryl is not just for allergies, it's also used as a decongestant. It is often used in cold meds, including Nyquil. Check the label for diphenhydramine, that's the generic name for Benadryl.
I went to a "hemp fest" over in Asheville a couple Saturdays ago and came back with 300mg full spectrum hemp oil extract. I use a ML dropper orally about thirty minutes before bed. That seems to help me sleep better.

She seemed fine when I called yesterday.
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Old 09-05-2019, 09:11 AM
 
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I have found since I was a young woman that I cannot take the ADULT dosage of any of these OTC products, including Tylenol. They either made me spacey or gave me "agita". It is not because of any other medications I take, then or now, but probably because of my size (5'1" 100 lbs.) If a child's dosage works fine, what is wrong with taking less, or for that matter nothing at all?
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Old 09-05-2019, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Surfside Beach, SC
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Benadryl is not just for allergies, it's also used as a decongestant. It is often used in cold meds, including Nyquil. Check the label for diphenhydramine, that's the generic name for Benadryl.
Benadryl (diphenhydramine) is not a decongestant. It's an antihistamine.
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Old 09-05-2019, 10:47 AM
 
Location: East TN
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Not my point.

People were using it every night to get to sleep, whether they needed it or not. Much the same way I used to take a couple of ibuprofen in the morning, even though I had had no pain yet that day.

I managed to break myself of that habit a couple of months ago. There doesn't seem to be any permanent damage to my kidneys.
OTC remedies should not be used in that way (daily whether needed or not). Especially NSAIDS. Glad to hear you stopped, and there was no damage.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3158445/

Older adults commonly take nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) chronically. Studies of older adults show that chronic NSAID use increases the risk of peptic ulcer disease, acute renal failure, and stroke/myocardial infarction. Moreover, chronic NSAID use can exacerbate a number of chronic diseases including heart failure and hypertension, and can interact with a number of drugs (eg, warfarin, corticosteroids).
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