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This is supposed to be a "feel good" quote and thread lol
Hi FREE,
It resonated with me, so thanks for sharing it. Although I'd expand on Fisher's message because defining who you are is a process that can be done throughout adulthood, not just in retirement or only starting in retirement.
No one puts a gun to your head and threatens to blow your brains out unless you report to Making People Miserable Corporation on Monday to start your drudgery in chains.
People make choices. Don't pretend you didn't. Everybody who worked for MPM Corp or its moral equivalent chose to do those "daily activities."
Lastly, self-employed people don't look around and blame others for their misery. It's kind of hard to fool yourself into thinking you're a victim when you started your business and are putting your all into running it and succeeding.
THAT is how you define yourself. Start with, "I am not a victim."
"Victim", another word that's fallen into misuse in popular culture. There's nothing in the post that implies the poster thinks that they are a victim, by proper definition of the word. Merely a discussion of the issues concerning employment, retirement, and self-identity.
"Victim", another word that's fallen into misuse in popular culture. There's nothing in the post that implies the poster thinks that they are a victim, by proper definition of the word. Merely a discussion of the issues concerning employment, retirement, and self-identity.
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When you were working, your company, position & coworkers limited your self-definition.
The person who embraces that sounds like a self-pitying victim to me.
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this quote is SO 'Ken Fisher'...('Mr Money' showman, (let me show you, as I'm the only one who can!))
There are a lot of good 'retirement quotes', but this quote is a bit of an antonym
“Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn’t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” – Mark Twain
...really?..so you're saying you spent your entire life being defined by who you work for?...that's pretty sad...
Really? Success in work and being recognized for it often does defined our sense of who we are as seen by others who are aware of that success. A limited public profile and limited success/accomplishments/recognition can often result in a self created view of ourselves in relationship to the world and our contributions to it.
No spiritual awakening. However it’s nice to retire. I always do what I want anyway. Is this Ken Fish from Fisher investments, the guy who says “I would die and go to hell before I’d sell annuity”?
Your point in my thinking serves to support the quote. My first thought was that it was the same Ken Fisher who millions recognize as a famous person in the world of investments. This is how the outside world sees him and recognizes him on a day to day basis. At some point many seek to leave the day to day notoriety behind and find a different path independent of thoughts and expectations of those who know and recognize what they do and see them as such.
This is supposed to be a "feel good" quote and thread lol
Was to me and TY for the thought. Again we need to consider the message and the deliverer of the message and who their intended audience was. In the case of Ken Fisher, individuals with at least 500k to invest. Those individuals quite possibly have a different level of expectations, recognition and success in their work then many others. They are more than ready at retirement to move on from 60 hour work weeks and responsibilities for their job and often others.
Me, too. I spent the last 10 years of my working life in a resort community, so options were limited for work. But that suited me just fine because I had a seasonal job with half the year off and generous unemployment.
Got to play and travel half the year and get paid for it.
I did love building spec houses way back in the day, but that is the distant past. If I HAD to identify with work, that would probably be it.
The people I know who identify with their work are either self-employed or in some type of "helping" profession. Corporate back office people don't identify with their work that way.
I wouldn't call him a joke but rather t he "use car dealer of the investment world. DON'T EVER, EVER CALL them, you will be stalked literally for the rest of your life. I made the mistake of answering an ad for a copy of his book. that was 10 years ago and these jokers STILL call. they do not take no for an answer.
I really think that's how they are successful, you will give them all your money, your kids and your dog just so they leave you alone.
Having moved from Florida to Tennessee, I no longer get phone calls from them. But they tracked me down for mailing purposes and I still get the big envelope offering me information three or four times a year. Guess I'll never get away from that.
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