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The HR has only one function, that is to protect the management & the company. They could care less what you think / feel or your complaints, even if you meant well.
The HR has only one function, that is to protect the management & the company. They could care less what you think / feel or your complaints, even if you meant well.
Yeah, which isn't to say you can't get actual references (as opposed to what was mentioned, which I consider to be more like "employment checks". That's my own term I came up with. I guess they tend to get lumped in with "reference checks"?). When asked for professional managerial references, I don't go to the company for those. I ask supervisors and managers I used to work under (some have retired, or otherwise no longer with the company we were at) for that.
Yep -- as others have said, the HR department is there to protect the company. If someone had a great relationship with a manager or coworker, it can't hurt to ask them offline if they'd be willing to give a reference.
The HR has only one function, that is to protect the management & the company. They could care less what you think / feel or your complaints, even if you meant well.
Absolutely and my self interest determined how I handled the exit process.
First, HR wanted 3 months of advance notice supposedly to prepare paperwork and pension, if applicable. When they downsize or otherwise terminate an employee, they usually do so on a Friday and the employee is marched off the premises that day. I was generous and gave them 4 weeks notice.
When it came to the exit interview and questionnaire my only semi-negative comment was that I was not being paid enough to stay longer. I did not dwell on the issue even though I was internally quite angry. I had initiated and successfully completed some major projects that greatly improved quality of services and reduced costs. I had put in years of long hours and hard work. Even so I saw only small raises and since I retired a few years after the Great Recession, I had gone several years with no raises.
If you were working in a toxic environment and unhappy, whose fault was that? Why didn't you leave before and find something better?
I did not write nor imply a toxic work environment.
As the exit interview is all about HR doing a CYA and there is no benefit for the departing employee, then I think a sod off is sufficient.
I see no purpose to leaving with a FU. It accomplishes nothing. The HR employee doesn't want to hear it either. Management is not likely to listen.
You also never know. Retirees change their minds and often take another job at least part time for a while. Leaving with a good rep and recommendations can be important.
There's a YouTube channel called 55+ and he advised do *not* answer questions honestly if it's not positive.
There's no good will come out of it. They don't really care how you feel about the company, worse they will put your comments in your personnel file. You'll never know if sometimes down the road a potential employer may check up on you and they may give you a negative review based on your personnel file.
Given that this is the retirement forum and the question asked about when retiring, it's not likely there will be a potential employer checking up. Besides, most places don't give out anything but dates and positions. Personal references are who employers contact for actual work characteristics. But by teh Youtuber's logic, there's no reason to even participate in an exit interview.
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