On the automotive forum many are convinced that electric cars are the future (coverage, separate)
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If one really cared about efficiency, minimal resource consumption, and scalability, BEVs aren't the solution.
Electric traction rail is 20 times more efficient, takes less surface area (one track has the equivalent carrying capacity of 9 lanes of superhighway), and can be scaled with increased population density far more than can any pneumatic tire on pavement vehicle, regardless of power plant.
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Reminds me when I had a Nintendo and a sims game. Made the entire city tracks. No autos. Did rather well.
I know. But their current cars were inadequate for the trip. Because the range and charging capabilities weren't adequate.
Like I pointed out in a previous post, having to stop every hour to charge for 30 minutes to drive another hour.
By any measure, most Teslas are higher end vehicles. Yes, I know there's one for $35K with an astounding 220 miles of range, less than half that of my F150 or the 2010 Forester and 40% of the 2021 Forester's range. Hell, my kid's '05 Sable gets 26/27 MPG if he doesn't bury his foot in it.
Where do you get your info - you don't stop every hour to charge 30 min. You imply a range of 60-70 miles and charge speed way below reality. I charge once for about 25-30 min on a 6 hour trip that I take more than once a month. Reality is that driving an ICE vehicle on the same route results in maybe a few minutes less because still stopping to fill up, eat and use the facilities.
Some Tesla's have ranges that are closer to your F-150 or Forester, not all are that short - you can't buy the 220 mile range any more.
Where do you get your info - you don't stop every hour to charge 30 min. You imply a range of 60-70 miles and charge speed way below reality. I charge once for about 25-30 min on a 6 hour trip that I take more than once a month. Reality is that driving an ICE vehicle on the same route results in maybe a few minutes less because still stopping to fill up, eat and use the facilities.
Some Tesla's have ranges that are closer to your F-150 or Forester, not all are that short - you can't buy the 220 mile range any more.
My son woks for Lucid and it is an amazing car. They have lower cost vehicles coming up which they will need to become a truly viable automaker. The EV competition is really starting to ramp up including the traditional automakers, Lucid currently has a technology advantage which they will need to maintain to gain a foothold.
Does your son feel that Lucid has a bright future ?
No, things haven't really "changed a bit". There may be more chargers in Denver, where you are, but that's not the case everywhere.
You all say "Well WalMart and Kohl's have installed chargers" but I have yet to see either with them.
Chargers won't be installed anywhere, by businesses or most governments, until critical mass is reached. Even then for businesses there will be a lot of sharp pencils involved due to the cost.
About the cost: we installed a two stall multi-charger in one of the Town's parking lots about four years ago, the cost was $30,000. Had we not gotten a $25,000 grant and a free hybrid Ford Fusion for doing it it wouldn't have been done. As it is those chargers are rarely used.
Ikea had rows and rows of chargers. Next time I'm out that way I'll count them, since appearances can be deceiving. Edited to add that this Ikea is close to I 95 Smart move.
How many people who are so gung ho on EV's are also in favor of an extra tax on EV's because the EV's don't pay any gasoline tax which is what pays for most of our highway construction and repair?
Does your son feel that Lucid has a bright future ?
He does think they have a bright future, but he understands that it's a very competitive car market and Lucid is a startup company so anything can happen.
That is not the "industry" - that is a UK company and it is really out of wack from what is reality for longer trips in the US - you did not even use the numbers from your source.
Many EVs are more like 100Kw battery size and most new chargers are more in the 250-350Kw range. The 50Kw that the site lists are level 3 chargers - old tech and much cheaper equipment. Anything faster is DC Fast charger.
Tesla has had 150Kw chargers for over 10 years - i have never seen a 50Kw charger other than at a business for convenience not serious charging. Even the data they are using for home is low - I charge at 9Kw at home (40 amps), not 7Kw.
I am going by actual use rather than out of date data - I can get about 100 miles of range in 15 minutes or about 180 miles in 30 minutes on a 150Kw charger. With a 350Kw charger, 100 miles will take about 7 minutes.
How many people who are so gung ho on EV's are also in favor of an extra tax on EV's because the EV's don't pay any gasoline tax which is what pays for most of our highway construction and repair?
You are behind the times - currently many states impose an extra tax on EVs in the form of registration and other fees. The average EV owner already pays more than twice in fees what someone driving an efficient gasoline car pays annually in state gas taxes. EVs also pay taxes on electricity used.
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