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Old 07-14-2011, 02:08 PM
 
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Some people value education and state services. Good luck in your next location.

 
Old 07-14-2011, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Providence
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I have a feeling this person is just going to TX to visit. Who moves to TX in the middle of the summer.
Correct, going for three weeks.
 
Old 07-14-2011, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Providence
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OK, let's see your stats pal.

I am making a bold prediction right now: We never will.

OK, so it's not bold because the stats you speak of only come sprinkled with fairy dust.

(And maybe some TX BBQ sauce.)

Our Governor: Linc Chafee

Yours: Rick Perry.

Perry touts endorsement of pastor who called Statue of Liberty ‘demonic’ | The Raw Story

'Nuff said.
It seems the stats you present are of a blog? , or opinion based website?
Here's your proof.

The Under-Educated States of America « TeacherPortal Chalk Talk
 
Old 07-14-2011, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Cranston
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It seems the stats you present are of a blog? , or opinion based website?
Here's your proof.

The Under-Educated States of America « TeacherPortal Chalk Talk
You're going to have to do better than Standardized Tests.
 
Old 07-15-2011, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Providence
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As a native RIer, I continue to see the deterioration of the state on many fronts, both locally and across the major population centers.

First, schools - public school education in the state has declined. Yes, this is a national trend, but in RI in particular I find it more noticeable. There are a few key reasons for this. First, the strong hold of teachers' unions on the government. I honor teachers and respect what they do for a living. I believe they should be paid well. However, when you have a structure whereby you are rewarded not by merit but by how long you have worked, that is unacceptable for declining education. Quite frankly, sometimes the older teachers are the most complacent and refuse to modify/adapt. How do you encourage and recruit young, educated teachers to enter when any threats of cuts means that they are the first let go?
This is part of the union process. Another reason why state employees should not be unionized.


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Secondly, the growing Hispanic population is increasing the disparity between poor and rich. And, as discussed on other forums, unlike past immigration waves, Hispanics are less inclined to 'integrate' with American culture and particularly into the English language. I champion retaining one's heritage and culture (as a first-generation born Portuguese-American, I always try to maintain culture my grandparents brought here). However, when you have teachers who may have poor English proficiency in the classroom (Story), and having first-hand experienced elementary and high school Hispanic students with poor English skills, I take major issues with that. No, this is not an anti-Hispanic rant. Again, as a child of immigrants, I champion immigration and for these people to come here. But there has to be stronger mandates for them to be more proficient..
The growing Hispanic population is a primary contriubutor to the stagnanation this state experiences, and one of the primary draws to RI is the subsidies programs are a bit more generous here than in other states. With high unemployment, we should not be allowing anyone to immigrate to this country, specifically those with no skills, who intend to enjoy making babies courtesy of the tax payer. Also, this has been the direct contributor to our schools lacking in test scores. How can a teacher teach a class when she has brand new students from countries such as Guatamala who don't speak English, can't tell time, can't tie a shoe.

The level of science and math in RI is also below average nationally, according to a new report summarized in Physics Today. That is yielding poor performance at the university level and thus making RI youth less competitive nationally and internationally.

Second, the population of the state - I am sure people have noted that the state's population is nearly stagnant. However, one alarming trend is that RI ranks in the top 10 for loss of young people (18-30). As such, the population as a whole has a higher median age than the national average. Therefore, as the population grows older and more pensions are paid and more services are needed, the budget situation will continually grow worse. However, more importantly, the loss of the talented youth also causes a 'brain drain' and a 'worker drain' for the state, reducing the tax base and making the state less competitive to draw new industries.

Actually, the state has been losing population steady, but gaining refugees, and other immigrants many of which came here illegally. They destroy the budget, our neighborhoods, our schools, and our culture.

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Finally, the economical base - aside from tourism, RI based much of its economic might in manufacturing. That base is shrinking because of either more automation or businesses are drawn out of state to more business-friendly environments. What is left is stubbornly high unemployment and no new businesses to help combat that. The state has a chance to reinvent itself with new technologies, including the impending 'green revolution', yet NIMBYism is among a driver against it (see the recent move by N Kingstown to ban all wind turbines from the city). Even efforts to bring casinos to the state are stalled because of competing interests. While I don't advocate a casino as the panacea for the state's troubled economy, it is a system of a broken and corrupt structure in our governments that needs to be undone in order for RI to be viable.
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Old 07-15-2011, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Providence
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Before you leave, can you take a minute and explain to me real quickly how a State can file for bankruptcy? Inquiring minds would love to know.
Ever here of Central Falls? It's in Wo-Dialin (native accent). It may very well go into bankruptcy. I met with Angel Taveras 6/29 at Meeting Street school to discuss why he's not considering bankruptcy for Providence, and his answer was because he was concerned about the bond rating, and the affects it would have on the city attracting new business. Going into bankruptcy is entirely possible for the state as well. It allows the state to declare all union contracts, ...read: NULL & VOID. Forcing re-negotiating. This is the only reason why the firefighters union and police unions will even consider talking with the mayor and his aides. Bankruptcy would be spectacular for RI: a new beginning, all these municipal employees and there full sense of entitlement down the tube. They would actually be in a situation those who have worked in the private sector are all too familiar with. Hey German, good luck in Bristol. Yeh, enjoy that big parade every 7/4!! Oldest in the nation, yeh!... Sis, boom bah! .....ad nauseaum....
 
Old 07-15-2011, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Cranston
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This is part of the union process. Another reason why state employees should not be unionized.




The growing Hispanic population is a primary contriubutor to the stagnanation this state experiences, and one of the primary draws to RI is the subsidies programs are a bit more generous here than in other states. With high unemployment, we should not be allowing anyone to immigrate to this country, specifically those with no skills, who intend to enjoy making babies courtesy of the tax payer. Also, this has been the direct contributor to our schools lacking in test scores. How can a teacher teach a class when she has brand new students from countries such as Guatamala who don't speak English, can't tell time, can't tie a shoe.

The level of science and math in RI is also below average nationally, according to a new report summarized in Physics Today. That is yielding poor performance at the university level and thus making RI youth less competitive nationally and internationally.

Second, the population of the state - I am sure people have noted that the state's population is nearly stagnant. However, one alarming trend is that RI ranks in the top 10 for loss of young people (18-30). As such, the population as a whole has a higher median age than the national average. Therefore, as the population grows older and more pensions are paid and more services are needed, the budget situation will continually grow worse. However, more importantly, the loss of the talented youth also causes a 'brain drain' and a 'worker drain' for the state, reducing the tax base and making the state less competitive to draw new industries.

Actually, the state has been losing population steady, but gaining refugees, and other immigrants many of which came here illegally. They destroy the budget, our neighborhoods, our schools, and our culture.



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Dude. I got news for you. And this is going to come as a shock.

Brace yourself....

Wait for it....

Texas has one of the worst illegal immigration problems in the country, and Rhode Island is on the low end for the entire Nation. For one thing our population is over 80% white, at a time when the average state is just over 60.

But hey, don't let facts get in the way of your little move there.
 
Old 07-15-2011, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Cranston
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Ever here of Central Falls? It's in Wo-Dialin (native accent). It may very well go into bankruptcy. I met with Angel Taveras 6/29 at Meeting Street school to discuss why he's not considering bankruptcy for Providence, and his answer was because he was concerned about the bond rating, and the affects it would have on the city attracting new business. Going into bankruptcy is entirely possible for the state as well. It allows the state to declare all union contracts, ...read: NULL & VOID. Forcing re-negotiating. This is the only reason why the firefighters union and police unions will even consider talking with the mayor and his aides. Bankruptcy would be spectacular for RI: a new beginning, all these municipal employees and there full sense of entitlement down the tube. They would actually be in a situation those who have worked in the private sector are all too familiar with. Hey German, good luck in Bristol. Yeh, enjoy that big parade every 7/4!! Oldest in the nation, yeh!... Sis, boom bah! .....ad nauseaum....
Man. Here's what I don't get. Why do you people who claim you're leaving the state anyway feel the need to post (speaking of ad nauseum) on this site perpetually? Why not just get where you're going and be happy?

Seriously, life is short. Take a chill pill.
 
Old 07-15-2011, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Rhode Island
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Ever here of Central Falls? It's in Wo-Dialin (native accent). It may very well go into bankruptcy. I met with Angel Taveras 6/29 at Meeting Street school to discuss why he's not considering bankruptcy for Providence, and his answer was because he was concerned about the bond rating, and the affects it would have on the city attracting new business. Going into bankruptcy is entirely possible for the state as well. It allows the state to declare all union contracts, ...read: NULL & VOID. Forcing re-negotiating. This is the only reason why the firefighters union and police unions will even consider talking with the mayor and his aides. Bankruptcy would be spectacular for RI: a new beginning, all these municipal employees and there full sense of entitlement down the tube. They would actually be in a situation those who have worked in the private sector are all too familiar with. Hey German, good luck in Bristol. Yeh, enjoy that big parade every 7/4!! Oldest in the nation, yeh!... Sis, boom bah! .....ad nauseaum....
Municipalities can indeed file for bankruptcy. States can't. Just read the relevant section of the law.
 
Old 07-15-2011, 05:53 PM
 
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Man. Here's what I don't get. Why do you people who claim you're leaving the state anyway feel the need to post (speaking of ad nauseum) on this site perpetually? Why not just get where you're going and be happy?
one problem is the economy, banks are not giving easy loans, property is difficult to sell. Second we are in Rhode Island, our population is stagnant, not exactly a popular destination for investors with disposable income. A future move will take time... sorry.
In the mean time...I feel, it's fine to give my opinion.
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