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The State is very congested in the North , so a Rail system is badly needed. Its not that expensive to run a system compared to Roads... As for Density , RI has always been dense along with the rest of New England and the Northeast its just how we live up here. It has nothing to do with Agenda 21. Alot of towns can be traced back to the 1800s. As far as Ocean staters being forced out of thier homes , None. The State Rail network will use old ROWs preserved for future use. The T system full build out will be used by close to 300,000 when completed...in 2030 and service every large town in RI.
Anyone who wants their home to be their quiet retreat won't like living near a train.
Obviously you are one of the lobbyists for ICLEI or something. You seem to chime in whenever anyone posts about any Agenda 21 inspired program to defend it.
Anyone who wants their home to be their quiet retreat won't like living near a train.
Obviously you are one of the lobbyists for ICLEI or something. You seem to chime in whenever anyone posts about any Agenda 21 inspired program to defend it.
LOL , but the tracks are almost a century old and carry freight in many cases , so adding passenger rail isn't a big deal. Its a Northeastern thing , also the fact that many of the suburbs were built by the Railroads and are very quiet and peaceful to live in. As for me i'm a Rail / Transit Advocate.... I doubt you have every set foot in the Northeast , but our Traffic is bad , really bad. By 2030 I-95 from Southern New Hampshire to Northern Virgina will be over capacity despite the expansions done over the years and Congested periods will grow from an average of 6 hrs a day to 12hrs a day which in this region is could be very damaging to the economy. Its not just I-95 its 26 other Interstates and Major Highways. Hench why they're building up the Rail network to head off the congestion issues , it also spurs growth in this region. Which grows our economy....and we account for 25% of the Countries Economy and 35% of the population both are growing not as fast as they used to be but their growing.
Sure the idea is nice and it is nice to hear that no one was kicked out of their homes this time but will the COST be WORTH it? By 2030 I bet a ride from Wickford to the airport will cost $30. Then will it be worth it?
Why didn't the PRIVATE sector build it WITHOUT Federal taxpayer dollars? I bet it is a guarantee that if it was paid for with private funds it could have been built for a fraction of the cost.
Rhode Islanders need to beware of these "sustainable" programs that sound great but cost an ARM and a LEG along with down the road, your property and your freedom. A good source to learn about it is the book by Rosa Koire called BEHIND THE GREEN MASK or go to the website "Democrats Against U.N. Agenda 21"
This time , their are no Rail or Transit projects on the table anywhere in Rhode Island or New England that take people's land or homes. There are a few Highway Projects that take alot of land and alot homes...funny how you don't mention those. I subsidize you Interstate Highway projects down there ,why can't you pay for our Rail projects? The Rail Industry is so regulated it scares away Private investors unlike Europe or Asia where they'll pump billions and build up networks. So Intill those Regulations are repealed we probably won't see much private investment. The Air and Oil Industry are behind most of those regulations... As for your hissy fit about Agenda 21 , I see you got chased off the Greenburg forums for attaching Agenda 21 to just everything , now your traveling the site attaching it to everything that you see as a attack on so called Freedoms. This time you stepping in some sticky mud , and its backfired completely on you.
Sure the idea is nice and it is nice to hear that no one was kicked out of their homes this time but will the COST be WORTH it? By 2030 I bet a ride from Wickford to the airport will cost $30. Then will it be worth it?
Why didn't the PRIVATE sector build it WITHOUT Federal taxpayer dollars? I bet it is a guarantee that if it was paid for with private funds it could have been built for a fraction of the cost.
Rhode Islanders need to beware of these "sustainable" programs that sound great but cost an ARM and a LEG along with down the road, your property and your freedom. A good source to learn about it is the book by Rosa Koire called BEHIND THE GREEN MASK or go to the website "Democrats Against U.N. Agenda 21"
The main function of the line is for commuting service to Providence and Boston, at least from Wickford Station. There is little expectation that passengers will go from WS to TF Green. But, there are stations there and you can if you want to. You are still missing the point of this service and that is to get people out of their cars and to provide an alternate choice of transportation. We are willing to spend money on our mass transit infrastructure and it is necessary in Rhode Island. It is considered an investment. In all countries this type of service has public investment. All transportation has public investment, even that which you might consider to be private investment has at its roots in public investment. Airlines have public airports; trucking has our roadway system and railroads have trackage in which the government invests. This might not be needed in SC, but in the NE it is needed. But, like I said thanks for caring and sharing about us Rhode Islanders.
Sure the idea is nice and it is nice to hear that no one was kicked out of their homes this time but will the COST be WORTH it? By 2030 I bet a ride from Wickford to the airport will cost $30. Then will it be worth it?
Why didn't the PRIVATE sector build it WITHOUT Federal taxpayer dollars? I bet it is a guarantee that if it was paid for with private funds it could have been built for a fraction of the cost.
Rhode Islanders need to beware of these "sustainable" programs that sound great but cost an ARM and a LEG along with down the road, your property and your freedom. A good source to learn about it is the book by Rosa Koire called BEHIND THE GREEN MASK or go to the website "Democrats Against U.N. Agenda 21"
I completely agree with you. Which is why I propose we stop building and maintaining roads too and let the private sector take care of all that. Because by 2030, the federal government is definitely going to charge you $30 in tolls (each way, of course and on top of the fuel costs which I'm sure will have stabilized by then at around $50 per gallon, and of course, maintenance fees, insurance, registration, etc.) to get to/from TF Green. I mean, they use our tax payer dollars to fund those highways (and smaller roads)!! The horror! It's a conspiracy. They built our entire freeway system without demolishing any homes (or entire neighborhoods for that matter), so why can't they do it with rail?! Did you see the commuter rail route to Wickford Jct? It looks like a swath of destruction from 1,000 earthquakes, tornadoes and hurricanes combined.
And speaking of "freedom" and "agenda" we should definitely not provide alternatives to car transport for our citizens. That's totally taking away freedom (simple logic says providing more options= less freedom, right?)! I mean without any public transit, then we could all easily choose to pay $3.50+ per gallon and sit in traffic all day. Now, no one in Wickford can make that choice any longer. They HAVE to take that train. It's really tragic when you think about it, isn't it.
Living next to highways is MUCH more pleasant than living near 100+ year old train tracks. I mean why have an occasional train roll by at set hours during the day when you can have constant exhaust and traffic noise 24/7? I think it's an easy choice.
The main function of the line is for commuting service to Providence and Boston, at least from Wickford Station. There is little expectation that passengers will go from WS to TF Green. But, there are stations there and you can if you want to. You are still missing the point of this service and that is to get people out of their cars and to provide an alternate choice of transportation. We are willing to spend money on our mass transit infrastructure and it is necessary in Rhode Island. It is considered an investment. In all countries this type of service has public investment. All transportation has public investment, even that which you might consider to be private investment has at its roots in public investment. Airlines have public airports; trucking has our roadway system and railroads have trackage in which the government invests. This might not be needed in SC, but in the NE it is needed. But, like I said thanks for caring and sharing about us Rhode Islanders.
I still own property in RI and have spent most of my life there. That is why I care. I remember it from back in the days when there was a Ferry Boat connecting Jamestown and Newport.
Still, when the state doesn't have two cents to rub together the LAST thing it should be doing is extorting $$$ from Federal taxpayers to build a railroad that only 2000 people a day use. That is insane...and as I said before, a waste of money.
If the railroad was such a great idea, let private industry food the WHOLE bill and take the WHOLE RISK. Don't throw $33 Mil on the backs of out of state taxpayers UNBKNOWNST to them so 2000 Rhode Islanders don't have to use their cars to drive 20 minutes to Providence.
Right now if they want to they can take the bus. There is no reason to have a train TOO... especially at a cost like that.
Got any facts to back up your comments? Usually the land around a new transit station goes way up in value. It's called economic development and investment for the future. In case you didn't know since you're from out of state, the train tracks in Wickford have always been in existence.
Look up "AGenda 21" and "Democrats against UN Agenda 21". Look up ICLEI.org and see how many Rhode Island counties are members. If they are that means they have laid out the red carpet for the globalists to come in and take over RI with a handful of special interest groups raking in the dough all during the so called "sustainable development" process. You might be forced to give up your home in the process but it is all for the "greater good" . So you don't mind. Right?
I still own property in RI and have spent most of my life there. That is why I care. I remember it from back in the days when there was a Ferry Boat connecting Jamestown and Newport.
Still, when the state doesn't have two cents to rub together the LAST thing it should be doing is extorting $$$ from Federal taxpayers to build a railroad that only 2000 people a day use. That is insane...and as I said before, a waste of money.
If the railroad was such a great idea, let private industry food the WHOLE bill and take the WHOLE RISK. Don't throw $33 Mil on the backs of out of state taxpayers UNBKNOWNST to them so 2000 Rhode Islanders don't have to use their cars to drive 20 minutes to Providence.
Right now if they want to they can take the bus. There is no reason to have a train TOO... especially at a cost like that.
We spend 30-40 million on bridges that carry less then 2000....and like ive said this line and the full network will one day carry 360,000. I don't see Private building highways or Roads.....funny how Southerns cry foul over wasteful spending yet don't seem to care that the Feds and the Northern states pump billions into their backyards.
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