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I think these negative posits about politicians regarding their personal failings are a bit harsh and in the end irrelevant. That any public people are under a revealing microscope should make us all feel fortunate we're not there with them. The purity seeming to be required of our leaders here is unrealistic. Leaders like Cianci, are just humans with sometimes spectacularly failed private lives. Be thankful if your private life has been a success and hold the stones.
I think these negative posits about politicians regarding their personal failings are a bit harsh and in the end irrelevant. That any public people are under a revealing microscope should make us all feel fortunate we're not there with them. The purity seeming to be required of our leaders here is unrealistic. Leaders like Cianci, are just humans with sometimes spectacularly failed private lives. Be thankful if your private life has been a success and hold the stones.
It's not his spectacularly failed private life that concerns me. It's the failings of his public life - and in some areas they intertwine, such as the misuse of the police force to accomplish his personal goals, or when he crossed to the wrong side of the law.
Buddy's defense against the racketeering charges is that he surrounded himself with people on the take, but that he didn't know they were on the take.
I see that more as an indictment than a defense. His administrations were spectacularly scandal ridden and full of cronyism. If we're naïve enough to believe he knew nothing, we still must accept that Buddy was a bad judge of character, and a bad manager. I want Providence to move forward, not back to the days of no-show public works jobs and kickbacks. I still don't hear anything from Buddy that sounds like he "gets" it, so I can't hold out any hope that the third time will be different.
It's not his spectacularly failed private life that concerns me. It's the failings of his public life - and in some areas they intertwine, such as the misuse of the police force to accomplish his personal goals, or when he crossed to the wrong side of the law.
Buddy's defense against the racketeering charges is that he surrounded himself with people on the take, but that he didn't know they were on the take.
I see that more as an indictment than a defense. His administrations were spectacularly scandal ridden and full of cronyism. If we're naïve enough to believe he knew nothing, we still must accept that Buddy was a bad judge of character, and a bad manager. I want Providence to move forward, not back to the days of no-show public works jobs and kickbacks. I still don't hear anything from Buddy that sounds like he "gets" it, so I can't hold out any hope that the third time will be different.
I agree with much of this. What I don't agree with is the comingling of a public figure's private failings and the much more important public corruption and judgements. They are entirely different issues. Many of our greatest male leaders had miserable private lives. They were horrible, untrustworthy husbands. Watching PBS this week, Franklin Roosevelt comes to mind (not to elevate Cianci - just one example, of many).
I agree with much of this. What I don't agree with is the comingling of a public figure's private failings and the much more important public corruption and judgements. They are entirely different issues. Many of our greatest male leaders had miserable private lives. They were horrible, untrustworthy husbands. Watching PBS this week, Franklin Roosevelt comes to mind (not to elevate Cianci - just one example, of many).
^^^ Yes. And how many would vote again for Bill Clinton, brushing off his past transgressions -- and his impeachment? Evidently his political and private issues have been brushed off. A bridge quite far from President of the most powerful country on earth to a small city Mayor. Many will vote for Hillary just to get Slick Willy back in the White House. Two proven cheaters and liars for the price of one; and more scandal to come.
Not intending to go off topic here, but isn't it odd how many cannot see the big picture. Is it Buddy Cianci's "fooling around"; his wife's "fooling around", or that he took it out on someone he thought was his best friend. Or is it just that some people can't see the forest for the trees.
Have a great day everyone, this topic has become boring.
How many would vote again for Bill Clinton, brushing off his past transgressions -- and his impeachment?
As a staunch democrat, I supported Obama in 2008 largely because I did *not* want Clinton drama back in the White House.
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Is it Buddy Cianci's "fooling around"; his wife's "fooling around", or that he took it out on someone he thought was his best friend.
I don't want Buddy mostly due to the corruption and mismanagement he's displayed -- or the utter inability to choose trustworthy people to work for him, if you prefer.
To the extent the earlier conviction matters, I don't really care about the cheating. The issue is that he committed a violent assault upon someone (the motivation for the assault is irrelevant if it was anything but immediate self-defense). And that he misused public employees to help him carry out that violent felony. Both of which are big red lines against a public servant. Misusing the police actually an even bigger issue for me than the assault itself in terms of his fitness to be mayor.
And that he misused public employees to help him carry out that violent felony. Both of which are big red lines against a public servant. Misusing the police actually an even bigger issue for me than the assault itself in terms of his fitness to be mayor.
As a staunch democrat, I supported Obama in 2008 largely because I did *not* want Clinton drama back in the White House.
I don't want Buddy mostly due to the corruption and mismanagement he's displayed -- or the utter inability to choose trustworthy people to work for him, if you prefer.
To the extent the earlier conviction matters, I don't really care about the cheating. The issue is that he committed a violent assault upon someone (the motivation for the assault is irrelevant if it was anything but immediate self-defense). And that he misused public employees to help him carry out that violent felony. Both of which are big red lines against a public servant. Misusing the police actually an even bigger issue for me than the assault itself in terms of his fitness to be mayor.
Read "Clinton, Inc." Misuse of everything, and possible a murder that may never be proven. It is a fact by Hillary's own admission, that she had a rip roaring affair with Vince Foster.
As others have said, and as my family and native RI and some Providence friends weigh the Buddy matter, that the devil you know is better than one you don't know. To do what is best for Providence would be their choice, and we are all Independents.
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Misuse of everything, and possible a murder that may never be proven. It is a fact by Hillary's own admission, that she had a rip roaring affair with Vince Foster. 
