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Old 06-25-2015, 01:30 PM
 
Location: College Hill
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It's more along the lines that coyotes are adapting to suburbia. They're even urban. They're withing Boston and Los Angeles city limits, and most other major cities too. I'm sure there are some in Providence itself.
Uh, not on College Hill, right? Right?
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Old 06-25-2015, 01:32 PM
 
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Coyotes are not native to New England.

Maybe not, but they are definitely breeding there now.
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Old 06-25-2015, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts & Hilton Head, SC
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Maybe not, but they are definitely breeding there now.
Oh, I know that. It was mentioned that we were encroaching on their territory when it's actually the opposite.
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Old 06-25-2015, 05:37 PM
 
Location: College Hill
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^ That right? Quick take: I bet you can easily justify the decimation of the Native American tribes and taking their land, too. Because that's equal to your position on coyotes. And don't get me into the internment of American citizens of Japanese origin during WWII. Hope I'm wrong, but I fear the worst.

Coyotes have rights, too, dontchaknow!
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Old 06-26-2015, 04:54 PM
 
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Coyotes are not native to New England.
That doesn't contradict my statement. Black bears weren't native to RI either...until forced to ramble from their natural habitat.
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Old 06-27-2015, 09:06 AM
 
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There are a couple of small packs in Newport/Middletown, at least one living mostly on the navy base.

I've heard multiple packs howling back and forth in outer Boston suburban areas.

More surprising to me was discovering that otters live on the ponds in Roger Williams Park.
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Old 06-27-2015, 11:47 AM
 
Location: College Hill
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^ Please stay OT, Sir, because the RW stuff is a whole otter story. (Sorry!)
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Old 06-29-2015, 09:52 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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That doesn't contradict my statement. Black bears weren't native to RI either...until forced to ramble from their natural habitat.

This is a misunderstanding of the process. It isn't animals are being forced out of their natural habitat. It is that they are adapting (it is a type of evolution) and expanding their populations, they aren't being displaced then showing up. Ranges change over time, as habitat changes over time. For the coyotes, their main niche competition in the East is long gone and they've, through behavioral adaptive radiation, expanded to the ecological niche of the wolf, and also adapted to suburbia. There are coyotes within the Boston and NYC city limits and have been for quite awhile. I've they're not in Providence yet (which would be surprising), they soon will be.
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Old 06-29-2015, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Earth, a nice neighborhood in the Milky Way
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This is a misunderstanding of the process. It isn't animals are being forced out of their natural habitat. It is that they are adapting (it is a type of evolution) and expanding their populations, they aren't being displaced then showing up. Ranges change over time, as habitat changes over time. For the coyotes, their main niche competition in the East is long gone and they've, through behavioral adaptive radiation, expanded to the ecological niche of the wolf, and also adapted to suburbia. There are coyotes within the Boston and NYC city limits and have been for quite awhile. I've they're not in Providence yet (which would be surprising), they soon will be.
They've been in Providence for at least a decade. I think I first saw them on Blackstone Blvd. circa 2004.
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