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Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Originally Posted by GeoffD
On my soapbox on this topic.....
Administering the safety net at the state level has totally killed labor mobility for the poor. You can't move to a place with better economic opportunity because you're nailed to the ground by the social services you'd lose if you moved.
It was part of the intention. Just like border control is now. The powers that be want capital to flow freely to where its best utilized, they want raw material to do likewise... heck, that's part of the premise of the invisible hand at its core. They do not want labor to do likewise because by restricting it, it restricts wages and secures more $ for the elite.
It was part of the intention. Just like border control is now. The powers that be want capital to flow freely to where its best utilized, they want raw material to do likewise... heck, that's part of the premise of the invisible hand at its core. They do not want labor to do likewise because by restricting it, it restricts wages and secures more $ for the elite.
It was part of the intention. Just like border control is now. The powers that be want capital to flow freely to where its best utilized, they want raw material to do likewise... heck, that's part of the premise of the invisible hand at its core. They do not want labor to do likewise because by restricting it, it restricts wages and secures more $ for the elite.
Totally the plan of the ruling class.
Maybe it just seems that way to you in Rhode Island.
The City isn't "sending" homeless anywhere. The program allows eligible recipients to locate wherever they choose, including within New York City. https://www1.nyc.gov/site/hra/help/sota.page
Eh, you are way oversimplifying things here. Sure there is this romantic image of the illegal who works 4 jobs "Americans won't do" while paying taxes and receiving nothing, but fact is many (especially when you factor in their families) receive more in benefits than they return to our country. A lot of their income is transferred back to their home countries. Many are criminals (and not just talking immigration).
In turn, we have the image of "homeless" being some helpless unemployable strung out PTSD "vet" standing on a street corner. Again, not always (or even usually) so. These people being relocated appear to be families. We don't know their full story. Especially in big expensive cities like NYC, many "working folk" wind up homeless. I know it's hard to imagine from your Jamestown abode, but...
That said, this has been going on all across America for decades. There have been some good journalism on it, and a few studies. Rural areas shipping "undesirables" to their community to big cities, and cities shuffling them to other cities. Nothing new. Heck, some shelters (such as one in Key West) give one way tickets but with it comes with the string that the person is not allowed to come back ever. It's privately funded by businesses wanting "riff raff" out of the community.
City governments as well have been funding these practices since colonial times. If an indigent showed up in a town where they did "not belong"- (hadn't been previously living) the local colonial town council council would give a "warnings out" so they would not become a charge on the town. This meant they had to leave town by a certain date.
The likely reason that NYC gives a year's rent is so the individual can establish residency. If RI changed its residency to 3 years (or something) absolute proof of residency, it could avoid some liability. Our unemployment rate is at the national average, so anyone who wants to work can, unless they are in need of institutionalization. One of the biggest debacles arising out of the 1960s "reformation" was getting rid of mental hospitals and facilities for the poor like poor farms. Now every city has homeless on the streets. The 1960s "reforms" destroyed the public educational system as well IMO... but that's off topic.
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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City governments as well have been funding these practices since colonial times. If an indigent showed up in a town where they did "not belong"- (hadn't been previously living) the local colonial town council council would give a "warnings out" so they would not become a charge on the town. This meant they had to leave town by a certain date.
The likely reason that NYC gives a year's rent is so the individual can establish residency. If RI changed its residency to 3 years (or something) absolute proof of residency, it could avoid some liability. Our unemployment rate is at the national average, so anyone who wants to work can, unless they are in need of institutionalization. One of the biggest debacles arising out of the 1960s "reformation" was getting rid of mental hospitals and facilities for the poor like poor farms. Now every city has homeless on the streets. The 1960s "reforms" destroyed the public educational system as well IMO... but that's off topic.
Yeah, absolutely nothing new. Which was kind of my point.
If we got rid of this shell game between the states in all areas... undercutting each other for business, for benefits, to dump our problems on each other, and instead competed by raising the bar, it would be a far better country.
The City isn't "sending" homeless anywhere. The program allows eligible recipients to locate wherever they choose, including within New York City. https://www1.nyc.gov/site/hra/help/sota.page
Question # 1 would be "Is the city paying for it?". If the answer is in any way "yes", they yes they would be effectively "sending" them wherever.
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