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If not in the streets, where? I remember restaurants, barbershop, parking lots, and yes, on the streets.
Most of the violence nowadays is the same thing, gangster vs gangster - though in both eras there was always the chance of a gangster offing a rando who cut him off or cheated with his girl - remember Ronald McElroy?
People need to stop pretending one is more honorable than the other. The romantic nostalgia for the Mafia is just weird.
Violence among Cosa Nostra was generally well-planned, well-contained and posed minimal risk to the public at large. We're talking about Providence here, not the Al Capone days of Chicago. That example you cited was a rarity that was generally not tolerated and dealt with severely by the leadership. And as far as other street crime was concerned such as muggings, break-ins, car thefts and others affecting the public at large you wouldn't find much in areas controlled by them. Providence had the lowest street crime rate of any city in the country at one point, although I'm not attributing it all to Cosa Nostra but it was certainly a factor. Nobody said it was more honorable, we're talking about random acts of violence and street gang violence vs racketeering organizations.
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Violence among Cosa Nostra was generally well-planned, well-contained and posed minimal risk to the public at large. We're talking about Providence here, not the Al Capone days of Chicago. That example you cited was a rarity that was generally not tolerated and dealt with severely by the leadership. And as far as other street crime was concerned such as muggings, break-ins, car thefts and others affecting the public at large you wouldn't find much in areas controlled by them. Providence had the lowest street crime rate of any city in the country at one point, although I'm not attributing it all to Cosa Nostra but it was certainly a factor. Nobody said it was more honorable, we're talking about random acts of violence and street gang violence vs racketeering organizations.
What makes you think the violence today is random?
What makes you think the violence today is random?
It's far more random today than it was then. Back then you didn't hear about innocent people being shot at leaving the clubs, for instance. Or college girls being assaulted during home invasions. I could go on...
It's far more random today than it was then. Back then you didn't hear about innocent people being shot at leaving the clubs, for instance.
Again, how do you know the people leaving the clubs are innocent, and not targeted gangsters? Exactly like it always was.
I can honestly say that in all my years of living in RI I don't know one person who's been stabbed or shot - except a classmates father who was shot by the mob. Everyone else kept their nose clean and never had problems.
Sure it's anecdotal, but let's compare anecdotes and see if we come up with a broader picture.
What makes you think the violence today is random?
It's not all random, but much of it is. And it's obvious when it is because it happens in public places often involving people with no connection to the criminal activity or any proximate social events. Not that being proximate to a social event or nightclub involving criminals makes it likely they are complicit in the first place, which you seem to be implying. Following news reports updating progress on investigations helps to stay informed about what's happening. Of course, if you don't do that then everything looks the same I suppose.
Ongoing noise violations. Massive brawl. Past shootings. I'm sure the Elorza administration is working OT to have this sharthole's license yanked.
Providence has a mayor?
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HUGE BRAWL at Mi Sueno on Broad St.
