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It's not even a good money grab... the county is only getting something like 25% of the fines, the camera company gets the rest. The city didn't even want them... the city council voted them down but the county (Maggie Brooks) managed to push them through anyway.
We keep trading our freedom for security. The problem is that security is just an illusion. So we just give away our freedoms for, really, nothing in return.
It's not even a good money grab... the county is only getting something like 25% of the fines, the camera company gets the rest. The city didn't even want them... the city council voted them down but the county (Maggie Brooks) managed to push them through anyway.
The red light cameras are only in the city of Rochester and I believe they are maintained by the RPD traffic section. I don’t think it has anything to do with the county.
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We keep trading our freedom for security. The problem is that security is just an illusion. So we just give away our freedoms for, really, nothing in return.
The red light cameras only look at the license plates of the car running the light. Also they are fixed meaning they can’t pan around to look at pedestrians or anything else. The red light cams are not the cameras attached to the small grey boxes with the RPD patch and the flashing blue lights.
Sorry... it appears I flipped my information. It was the county legislature that voted down the red-light cameras, and the city pushed it through[1]. The company that's managing the cameras is called Redflex[2].
I can't find the source at the moment for the percentage of the revenue that goes to the city... but I'll do some digging.
The red light cameras are only in the city of Rochester and I believe they are maintained by the RPD traffic section. I don’t think it has anything to do with the county.
The red light cameras only look at the license plates of the car running the light. Also they are fixed meaning they can’t pan around to look at pedestrians or anything else. The red light cams are not the cameras attached to the small grey boxes with the RPD patch and the flashing blue lights.
I'm well aware of what they look like- they have a ton of them on intersections in NJ. I believe they are an invasion of privacy whether or not they photograph the driver or not.
Easy fix: don't speed through intersections, pay attention to the road, and leave enough space between you and the car in front of you so can react to them slamming on their brakes. This is ridiculous. If you're following the law, you shouldn't be overly concerned about it.
I'm well aware of what they look like- they have a ton of them on intersections in NJ. I believe they are an invasion of privacy whether or not they photograph the driver or not.
Really? Then what exactly is an invasion of privacy just b/c the police are utilizing new technology does not make it an invasion of privacy. The new police tactics have to be actually intrusive to be an invasion of ones privacy.
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Criminal surveillance.
What do you mean? Are you calling the cameras criminal or are you just saying that the cameras are being used to watch criminals?
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Easy fix: don't speed through intersections, pay attention to the road, and leave enough space between you and the car in front of you so can react to them slamming on their brakes. This is ridiculous. If you're following the law, you shouldn't be overly concerned about it.
Nice post I agree with you 100% the cameras aren’t a problem if people would actually drive like they should anyway. And as an added bonus it will generate some money for the city, which is cash strapped. It beats raising taxes.
Really? Then what exactly is an invasion of privacy just b/c the police are utilizing new technology does not make it an invasion of privacy. The new police tactics have to be actually intrusive to be an invasion of ones privacy.
What do you mean? Are you calling the cameras criminal or are you just saying that the cameras are being used to watch criminals?
Nice post I agree with you 100% the cameras aren’t a problem if people would actually drive like they should anyway. And as an added bonus it will generate some money for the city, which is cash strapped. It beats raising taxes.
Technology and privacy are not mutually exclusive. What is non-intrusive to you might be intrusive to others. Personally, I find the idea of red light cameras to be a stepping stone to other intrusive government activities, such as National ID cards, RFID's, govt database of medical records, etc.
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