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^The problem with that is that Rochester at times has had spikes in crime when all of those companies were downsized. An article from 1989 that illustrates this: https://buffalonews.com/news/rochest...64fdfb926.html
Also, if said people are getting all of this generous stuff, then why would that spur more crime? Wouldn’t it be the opposite?
I think some of it is that the city wasn’t ready for the influx of migrants, as many lived in crowded, substandard housing. Meaning, conditions in a portion of the city weren’t too hot and people in that/those areas are likely more concerned with ways to get out of said conditions, legally and illegally.
^ Unskilled labor in a city that depends on skilled labor. None the less, the large companies hired unskilled labor. "More than our fair share", Joe Wilson said. All of those companies encouraged growing the individual, and rarely was the opportunity taken advantage of, so they were the first to go when downsizing happened. Add to that, Rochester's "benevolence" and the overwhelming number of "do gooders", convincing everyone that "it's not your fault", and you have a recipe for an unhappy person.
^ Unskilled labor in a city that depends on skilled labor. None the less, the large companies hired unskilled labor. "More than our fair share", Joe Wilson said. All of those companies encouraged growing the individual, and rarely was the opportunity taken advantage of, so they were the first to go when downsizing happened. Add to that, Rochester's "benevolence" and the overwhelming number of "do gooders", convincing everyone that "it's not your fault", and you have a recipe for an unhappy person.
Many likely got skills on the job or later through programs. Many did take advantage of what was available. Hence the middle class not only in parts of the city, but into the suburbs as well.
Yes, some of it is personally related, but some also fall through the cracks, have other priorities in terms of living/survival or in some cases, were just organized outfits that contribute(d) to crime as well.
To be fair, some of the things that persisted in that documentary 57 years ago, still persists not only in segments of the city and others across the country.
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Many likely got skills on the job or later through programs. Many did take advantage of what was available. .
After just posting about working with many of these people, NO, they did NOT take advantage of what was available or improve their job skills. They told me they weren't interested in bettering themselves because it would lead to more responsibility.
After just posting about working with many of these people, NO, they did NOT take advantage of what was available or improve their job skills. They told me they weren't interested in bettering themselves because it would lead to more responsibility.
Where did you get that from? Even in the documentary I posted, it shows examples of people getting skills and weren't you the one that mentioned how companies looked to diversify its employment ranks, including the person you quoted, Joe Wilson?
Plus, why would someone literally tell you specifically that anyway? It sounds like you are referring to working people, which is totally different from people taking advantage of the generosity of local people and that leading to crime. Can you make this make sense?
Are you looking for a similar type of community, but within a few hours of NYC? If so, I'd personally look at towns such as Colonie, Bethlehem(Delmar), Guilderland, Niskayuna, Clifton Park, etc. in the Albany area; Vestal and parts of Union(i.e.-Endwell(cdp)) in the Binghamton area or say the town of Wallkill outside of Middletown as similar types of places within that time criteria. Maybe even a town such as New Hartford outside of Utica would be a good option within that area, but it may be a stretch.
Where did you get that from? Even in the documentary I posted, it shows examples of people getting skills and weren't you the one that mentioned how companies looked to diversify its employment ranks, including the person you quoted, Joe Wilson?
Plus, why would someone literally tell you specifically that anyway? It sounds like you are referring to working people, which is totally different from people taking advantage of the generosity of local people and that leading to crime. Can you make this make sense?
It makes perfect sense to those that simply read what I posted. To others, that have to twist things around, it won't make sense.
And where did I get my info? Not from a 50 y.o. video. Real life, talking to these people.
The 3 hours may be meaningless if he gets a great job, or really likes a certain city.
Speaking of jobs, I just read that Simcona Electronics (or its subsidiary) is looking to ad 75 jobs by the end of the year
True and great...I'm just saying that the OP may have misunderstood that Rochester is a bit more further away than what they expected. If they really want to be within 3 hours of NYC, then they would have to adjust where they relocate. That's all I'm saying.
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