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I think it's terrible and anyone who thinks there is any good to come of it is a completely delusional ignorant prick. To believe that they can fill that many high end units along a dingy river and stinky lake without building up the park itself to be an actual attraction of any kind is a total fallacy at best. And then to hear they're picking some $hitbrick developer out of Minnesota or wherever it was over a local developer with actual ties to the area is disgusting, absolutely disgusting.
I know it probably won't happen, but I hope the Charlotte community can find a way to shut this plan down. It's truly awful and will do nothing to help the area grow from a business and residential standpoint. I mean c'mon, they want to give broke people a nice home on the water (as gross as the water may be lol)? How's that fair to someone like me who works for what he wants? How about fixing up the entire area from Denise north up to the lake? This city is a complete joke, I don't care what anyone says, this is absolute proof.
I say it's about time. I've seen these plans for 35 years. I'm sick of going to other cities that have developed their waterfronts into fun and exciting areas. Years ago, I remember many more bars and restaurants, the bumper cars, Ferguson Hardware, Masters, Sammy's Pizza and many more. The area needs this, but I don't like the designs of either project. I also think it should be broken up to multiple developers to have a real mix.
Hopefully they go with the Edgewater (tower) proposal. Better to have higher end owner occupied properties than rentals. Although, I don't see the hotel doing well at that location. The downside is that there are no decent shops, retail, restaurants, etc to attract the wealthier buyers to that area. Lighthouse Landing isn't dependent on a grant and may be more of a sure thing as it has private investors.
Regardless which one is selected, it's a run-down area and developers are not exactly banging on the door in Rochester to invest. They should count themselves lucky to have these proposals. Besides the fast ferry terminal, has there been any development in Charlotte in the last 30 years? Hopefully this will go through and it won't be apartments.
Hopefully they go with the Edgewater (tower) proposal. Better to have higher end owner occupied properties than rentals. Although, I don't see the hotel doing well at that location. The downside is that there are no decent shops, retail, restaurants, etc to attract the wealthier buyers to that area. Lighthouse Landing isn't dependent on a grant and may be more of a sure thing as it has private investors.
Regardless which one is selected, it's a run-down area and developers are not exactly banging on the door in Rochester to invest. They should count themselves lucky to have these proposals. Besides the fast ferry terminal, has there been any development in Charlotte in the last 30 years? Hopefully this will go through and it won't be apartments.
Kind of a contradicting statement, no?
What this comes down to is the city wanting to make what is currently a park area, a residential area. And that's a mistake. For some reason the city government has this idea that you must build residential space everywhere to make it grow and flourish, when instead they should be focused on making a good thing even better than it is now.
And c'mon, a HOTEL? REALLY? Who the hell is going to stay at a hotel at Charlotte beach? It's not like there's a white sand beach with crystal blue water just begging to be swam in, or charter boats lined up 50 docks deep just waiting to take people out deep sea fishing. Ugh, this entire thing just pi$$es me off
I don't blame current residents for not wanting that monstrosity in their midst (and the input meetings are simply perfunctory; they intend to proceed regardless of sentiment against it).
I guess residents along Beach Avenue should just be happy the "suits" aren't walking around, quietly assessing the value of their properties for beachfront casinos and hotels--something that would bring in even more tax dollars, and something the city could do via eminent domain since the Supreme Court Kelo ruling.
Unfortunately for people who live there, with the city proper's ever-dwindling tax base, Charlotte could end up being their cash cow.
I don't blame current residents for not wanting that monstrosity in their midst (and the input meetings are simply perfunctory; they intend to proceed regardless of sentiment against it).
I guess residents along Beach Avenue should just be happy the "suits" aren't walking around, quietly assessing the value of their properties for beachfront casinos and hotels--something that would bring in even more tax dollars, and something the city could do via eminent domain since the Supreme Court Kelo ruling.
Unfortunately for people who live there, with the city proper's ever-dwindling tax base, Charlotte could end up being their cash cow.
I don't get why people would move to a city and then are surprised when there is urban development around them. Rochester needs development and progress. It's the urban center in a very sprawled metropolis. There are plenty of suburbs for people who are anti-urban to live in. But there shouldn't be surprise when the city chooses not to leave prime real estate undeveloped in today's economy when there are developers willing to do big things and take on the risks for those projects.
What this comes down to is the city wanting to make what is currently a park area, a residential area. And that's a mistake. For some reason the city government has this idea that you must build residential space everywhere to make it grow and flourish, when instead they should be focused on making a good thing even better than it is now.
And c'mon, a HOTEL? REALLY? Who the hell is going to stay at a hotel at Charlotte beach? It's not like there's a white sand beach with crystal blue water just begging to be swam in, or charter boats lined up 50 docks deep just waiting to take people out deep sea fishing. Ugh, this entire thing just pi$$es me off
It's a proven formula. You mix retail with residential and you'll get much better results in terms of development. As far as nobody wanting to go to a hotel in Charlotte, have you driven up the QEW lately through Canada? There are miles and miles and miles of $300,000 condos sitting on the shores of the lake in the most ugliest of environments. There is literally ugly industrial buildings on one side of the expressway, then the expressway, then thousands of condos on the other side. From what I've seen of this proposal, it's a million times better than what I see lining the sidewalks of a super highway running up to Toronto.
I don't get why people would move to a city and then are surprised when there is urban development around them. Rochester needs development and progress. It's the urban center in a very sprawled metropolis. There are plenty of suburbs for people who are anti-urban to live in. But there shouldn't be surprise when the city chooses not to leave prime real estate undeveloped in today's economy when there are developers willing to do big things and take on the risks for those projects.
First of all, Charlotte is not an "urban" area--it's a village located far outside of Rochester proper, and many of the people who live there have family who've lived there forever.
As I said, Rochester's tax base has continued to dwindle, with people moving out of the city (and many, to Charlotte) to get away from the crime, lack of services (there's no money), and decrepit housing (that wasn't always decrepit) that The PTB who are running out of taxpayers' pockets to pick see Charlotte as the cash cow. But it won't be for long when the city's problems soon become Charlotte's problems. Few millionaires will want to spend their millions in housing right next to Section 8 or even "market-based" housing.
Sadly, it'll spell the end for Charlotte.
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