foreigner who might like to own a farm in america (calves, water)
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Since it takes OVER an acre per cow ( of even excellent pasture ) a 5,000 cow pasture based dairy certainly would translate to more than 5,000 acres of pasture.
Try to keep up !
in ireland , a 100 acres would be more than enough land to keep 100 cows , from around late april to late august , 60 acres would be enough
Since it takes OVER an acre per cow ( of even excellent pasture ) a 5,000 cow pasture based dairy certainly would translate to more than 5,000 acres of pasture.
Try to keep up !
You're just determined to be snide, aren't you? I never quite know what to do with people like you...
To AUMs, that is completely dependent upon where you are in the country.
Going with a nice, easy plenty-of-rainfall ratio of one to one, and assuming you grow your own forage, that would indeed be 5000 acres for 5000.
However, no one in their right mind would have their entire place consist of a single pasture. (which is what your original post suggested with the "huge distances")
How would you grow hay? How would you rotate? And I'm not even talking intensive grazing rotation but simple things like summer pasture, winter pasture, calving pasture, etc.
And this is even before you get into the fact that a 5000 head pasture-based dairy probably supplements heavily with hay...
bob, what are you planning? A dairy or a ranch? Because Angus cattle, as mentioned several times, are not a dairy breed. They are a beef breed. In fact, the BEST beef breed in my opinion, not that I'm biased or anything. (That's what my cattle are, btw ).
However you keep talking dairies, also.
You are talking two completely different industries...
bob, what are you planning? A dairy or a ranch? Because Angus cattle, as mentioned several times, are not a dairy breed. They are a beef breed. In fact, the BEST beef breed in my opinion, not that I'm biased or anything. (That's what my cattle are, btw ).
However you keep talking dairies, also.
You are talking two completely different industries...
I agree wholeheartedly with your last sentence.
A dairy grazer needs a much different pasture system that is intensively managed in order for a dairy to be profitable.
Comparing beef grazing and dairy grazing is apples to oranges.
bob, what are you planning? A dairy or a ranch? Because Angus cattle, as mentioned several times, are not a dairy breed. They are a beef breed. In fact, the BEST beef breed in my opinion, not that I'm biased or anything. (That's what my cattle are, btw ).
However you keep talking dairies, also.
You are talking two completely different industries...
my posts were messy , i admit that , i drifted into a discussion about dairy farming in the usa
i know that angus are a beef breed , im not interested in buying a dairy farm anywhere , i just enjoy discussing it with farmers from other countries , i grew up on a dairy farm , my brother is a dairy farmer
angus are more dominant on north american , australia and south american farms than in europe , angus is still popular in ireland , the uk and europe but less so than the much larger french beef breeds like charoloais , limousin etc
buying a farm to raise angus cattle in the usa might be fantasy but i do like the idea of keeping a couple of hundred head somewhere , hard to do in a country like ireland where farms are small and rarely get sold
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