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Old 04-20-2008, 04:21 PM
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How do you feel about San Luis Obispo County going to suburban from rural after reading the following?

Well, first let me define the major city types...

10-49,999 population (rural community-towns and small cities)
50,000-499,999 population (suburban community-average size cities)
500,000-999,999 population (urban community-big cities)
1,000,000+ (metropolian community/metropolis)

San Luis Obispo (also known as San Luis) has not yet reached 50,000 population. And thus is known as another rural community. The general plan stated though it should be at 52,000 population in 2010 and be at it's build out of 58,000 in 2020. Poor San Luis got behind, and were only at 44,239 currently (about 100 more people from 2000 population).

So, in 2005 state officials checked up on the county and forced the county to build affordable, low-income housing for families by 2030. So, that in 2030 the county have about 355,000 population.

North County, remains very rural with only 3 large communities-Paso Robles, Atascadero, and Templeton. About only 15,000 population increase from now to 2030.

However, South County is experiencing a bigger housing boom. The annual report for San Luis Obispo estimates 3,190 with roughly 2.15 people in each household will be built in 14 years. That means in 2022 San Luis will have about 51,500 people living in the city. It's safe to say in 2020 San Luis will have 50,000 people living there. That means San Luis will be a suburban community, and more typically known as a ex-urb for it's suburban characteristics.

Now, in the mean time San Luis Obispo is having 3 new shopping centers being built to accomodate the increasing need for the local need of cheap products and diversity in shopping needs.

Prefumo Creek Commons, the Dalidio Ranch propety, and land adjacent to Prefumo Creek Commons will possibley be the last retail development in San Luis Obispo.

Prefumo Creek Commons will have Kohl's, Dalidio Ranch property is rumored to be getting a Macy's and Target regional open-air mall, and the third development has no confirmed tenets yet.

After San Luis fills the state requirements in the 2020-2030 period. Paso Robles will be continuing the urban sprawl demand in California.
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Old 05-30-2008, 11:42 PM
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anyone care to comment?
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Old 05-31-2008, 05:59 AM
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I liked it much better when they had a moratorium on building there.
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Old 05-31-2008, 06:45 PM
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Okay, I have a better summary of how my county is becoming a suburb:

In 2020, the 2008 general plan update notes that the population of San Luis Obispo, CA will be at 50,000 population. And in 2030 the population in the city will be at 52,000 population. As said in the first post-50,000 population classifies a city as a suburb. And San Luis Obispo is the biggest city in our county.

This city plans for 3 new shopping centers to be built in the next 17 years.
-Dalidio Ranch property (San Luis Obispo Marketplace with Target, Lowe's, Macy's, Sport Chalet, Rite-Aid, Pier 1 Imports, Lane Bryant, Tilly's, Forever 21, 6 resturaunt food court (Johnny Rockets, Johnny Carino's, Pick-Up Stix, Mimi's Cafe, Dairy Queen, Togo's Sandwiches), and a building below the food court is zoned for entertainment purposes for teenagers. It's rumored to be Motionz Laser Tag from Santa Maria (nearby big city), Lazer Star from Glendora (home of the architect, Bill W. Bird), or Funworks from Modesto.
-Prefumo Creek Commons (165,000sq. ft. shopping center next Costco, anchored by Kohl's)
-San Luis Square (next to Costco, no named anchor yet)

Paso Robles (to be at 40,000 population in 2020, and 48,000 population in 2030)
-Green Valley Plaza (anchored by Costco)
-Golden Hills Plaza (anchored by 169,000sq. ft. Lowe's)

Atascadero (to be at 30,000 population in 2020, and 32,000 population in 2020)
-Mission Oaks at the Annex (anchored by Super Wal-Mart and Big!Lots and TJ'Max)
-Colony Square Centre (anchored by new 10 screen stadium seating theater)

I haven't confirmed these facts yet, but I heard if Macy's doesn't make it into San Luis Obispo they are looking to be apart of a lifestyle shopping center in Arroyo Grande. Also in this Arroyo Grande property, might be a Home Depot. There is 1mill sq. ft. on this property in southern arroyo grande along Los Barros street. So I'd say it would be about 610,000sq. ft. lifestyle shopping center and 190,000sq. ft. and the rest would be for housing.

Now, I wish we could get an open-air fashion mall in Pismo Beach, like Paseo Nuevo or La Cumbre Plaza in Santa Barbara or like Simi Valley Town Center in Simi Valley. I think people in that city would really like a Macy's and Nordstrom mall would be very popular in the canyon road development. But, the land is currently zoned in the county and the city wants the lands annexed as residential or resorts. A developer, if he bought the land would have to pay money to fix the road structure and then pay for traffic fees on this property. The property isn't so fissible either, it's a bit behind the Oak Park Plaza where Osh is.

A fashion mall in Arroyo Grande or San Luis Obispo would be good too, but I don't think we are going to get a fashion mall in this county if Macy's is going to Dalidio Ranch's property.

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Old 06-07-2008, 12:47 PM
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As of 2020, the main activities for teenagers and college students, and population estimates, in the county:

San Luis Obispo (50,000 population-suburb)
1)San Luis Obispo Downtown (tons of local stores, farmers market with rock concerts on Thursday nights, and streets filled with upscale clothing retailers)
2)San Luis Obispo Marketplace (a big discount mall that will be built that will include Target, Lowe's, Macy's, Gelson's Market, a hotel, 7 nice resturaunts, and more)
3)The Grad (night club in downtown)
4)San Luis Obispo Dance Academy (in downtown, for girls)
5)Movie Experience/Downtown Cinema (seven screen upscale movie theater)
6)Sunset Drive-In theater (near where the discount mall will be built)

Pismo Beach (10,000 population-rural)
1)Pismo Beach with sand dunes and pier
2)Pismo Prime Outlets (outlet mall)

Grover Beach Skate Park
Lake Lopez
Mustang Water Slides
Regal/Festival Cinemas (stadium seating)
Gladiator Paintball Park

cooler weather (70 to 80 degree weather annually)
more retirees in area
more expensive homes

Paso Robles (40,000 population-rural)
1)The Ravine (water park)
2)Water Park Arcade (being built inside the water park, it should be pretty good)
3)Mid-State Fair
4)MVP Batting Cages
5)Skate-Mor Skating Rink
6)Paso Bowl (biggest bowling alley in my area, has a family fun center for small kids)

Atascadero (30,000 population-rural)
1)Charles Paddock Zoo
2)Mission Oaks at the Annex (strip mall with Super Wal-Mart and Big!Lots)

Franklin Hotsprings Paintball Field
Park Cinemas
Templeton Skate Park
Super Wal-Mart
Lake Nacimento

hotter weather (100 degress in Summer)
more families in area
cheaper homes
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