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Old 09-01-2020, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Then there are the folks who think this may be the time to jump, and go off the grid - I think homesteading is the word of the current times. About 1% of the non-knowing stand a chance at making a go of that. [TRUE]

So no - stay out of the true rural areas. If you must leave the cities, pick some suburbia with like-minded people that hopefully puts you close to good schools, hospitals and let’s not forget Places of Worship.
An alternative idea - go into a rural area, with 300-400 others, to construct / acquire a rural village. Then you can have the amenities of a small town / suburb combined with the rural benefits.

And if you really want to be bleeding edge, make that village a FORTIFIED VILLAGE, preferably with a perimeter wall, to discourage opportunistic predators... and SJW / BLM / Antifa.

My preference is for a dual ring village.

What Is a Dual Ring Village, or Ring Village?
. . . It is a large circular structure that can be configured with apartments, businesses, offices, gardens, and other functions, while providing intrinsic security and disaster resistance, at reduced cost.

Imagine a line of buildings, 4-5 stories tall, with businesses on the ground floor and apartments above - not unlike 1890 urban cities before the automobile. Wrap the line into a circle. Do it again. Two ring buildings, separated by a ring street, and surrounding a central park. Construct the exterior wall as a sturdy barrier, to mitigate natural and man-made disasters.

The characteristics that distinguish the Ring Village from other forms of high population density mixed use development / housing are:

1. Continuous rings (doughnut in a doughnut)

2. Stacked continuous balconies (movement around, as well as up /down)

3. Central park (for fun, recreation, nature preserve, corral or whatever)

4. Ground level reserved for enterprise, socializing, sidewalk cafes, public access

5. Upper levels reserved for homes and small offices

6. Single [watertight] gateway on each ring to control access (security option)

7. Close proximity to resources, parkland, social contact, and vocation

8. Ring street between the dual ring buildings (can’t get lost)

9. Rooftop gardens and balcony planters, to add more greenery, and

10. Engineered to eliminate the petty nuisances normally attributed to high density construction.
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Old 09-06-2020, 07:54 AM
 
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An alternative idea - go into a rural area, with 300-400 others, to construct / acquire a rural village. Then you can have the amenities of a small town / suburb combined with the rural benefits.

And if you really want to be bleeding edge, make that village a FORTIFIED VILLAGE, preferably with a perimeter wall, to discourage opportunistic predators... and SJW / BLM / Antifa.

My preference is for a dual ring village.

What Is a Dual Ring Village, or Ring Village?
. . . It is a large circular structure that can be configured with apartments, businesses, offices, gardens, and other functions, while providing intrinsic security and disaster resistance, at reduced cost.

Imagine a line of buildings, 4-5 stories tall, with businesses on the ground floor and apartments above - not unlike 1890 urban cities before the automobile. Wrap the line into a circle. Do it again. Two ring buildings, separated by a ring street, and surrounding a central park. Construct the exterior wall as a sturdy barrier, to mitigate natural and man-made disasters.

The characteristics that distinguish the Ring Village from other forms of high population density mixed use development / housing are:

1. Continuous rings (doughnut in a doughnut)

2. Stacked continuous balconies (movement around, as well as up /down)

3. Central park (for fun, recreation, nature preserve, corral or whatever)

4. Ground level reserved for enterprise, socializing, sidewalk cafes, public access

5. Upper levels reserved for homes and small offices

6. Single [watertight] gateway on each ring to control access (security option)

7. Close proximity to resources, parkland, social contact, and vocation

8. Ring street between the dual ring buildings (can’t get lost)

9. Rooftop gardens and balcony planters, to add more greenery, and

10. Engineered to eliminate the petty nuisances normally attributed to high density construction.
LOL — like this?



It’s only about $7B (+/-)
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Old 09-06-2020, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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An alternative idea - go into a rural area, with 300-400 others, to construct / acquire a rural village. Then you can have the amenities of a small town / suburb combined with the rural benefits.
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Leave the cities, move to a rural area, to form a new city?

I thought this thread was about 'Fleeing the cities to live in rural America'

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Will Americans flee the cities and repopulate rural America?
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Old 09-06-2020, 10:24 AM
 
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Leave the cities, move to a rural area, to form a new city?

I thought this thread was about 'Fleeing the cities to live in rural America'

Go in with 300-400 other people to form a new town or city, LOL. You’ll never get everyone to agree on the necessary features, let alone everything.

There are co-housing villages that try to do this, by screening personalities. But I bet they all suffer the same tiffs and riffs other places do, eventually. It starts with one person bending the rules and then Monkey See Monkey Do and Everyone Else Is Getting What They Want sets in like a permanent attitudinal plague. You would absolutely have to make clear rules AND enforce them consistently.

Even buying a duplex with ONE other party who are friends is risky.
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Old 09-16-2020, 05:49 AM
 
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If one is fleeing to a rural area or a small town after living urban you probably will want to know a few things which can be helpful.
Best not to say "where we lived we always did it this way".
Don't correct anyone's comfort zone or habits.
Keep the smarty talk to yourself. Observe...

..Like; having neighbors who might actually knock on your door to personally hand you mail that was accidently
put in their mailbox. In other words, they are coming by to meet and welcome you.

In a small town people will stop their car to see that you cross the road safely, then wave as they drive away.

In a small town people might call you ma'am or sir out of respect.

In a small town there will be celebrations on Main Street that everybody shows up for.

In a small town collections will be taken up for the family that lost their house in a fire.

In a small town people lift each other up. People participate and volunteer.

In a small town there is a caring that is visible and a kindness that can be felt.

In a small town you won't get the fast-paced finish line guys climbing their way to the top.

In a small town there will be people all around you who value integrity more than city savvy.

If this is something an urbanite finds appealing then add your goodness to the bucket.
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Old 09-16-2020, 03:01 PM
Status: "UB Tubbie" (set 27 days ago)
 
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We've been over run.
We are outnumbered at this point.
Many locals have thrown in the towel and moved or are in the process of moving.
It's just strengthening the cidiots numbers now. It's pretty much over. It's a sad reality what is happening right now.
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Old 09-16-2020, 03:07 PM
 
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We've been over run.
We are outnumbered at this point.
Many locals have thrown in the towel and moved or are in the process of moving.
It's just strengthening the cidiots numbers now. It's pretty much over. It's a sad reality what is happening right now.
Moving to where?
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Old 09-16-2020, 04:57 PM
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Moving to where?
We're going semi off grid. Most of the people I know are headed for all the usual places down south.
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Old 09-18-2020, 06:10 PM
 
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We're going semi off grid. Most of the people I know are headed for all the usual places down south.
In the USA or other countries?
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Old 09-19-2020, 03:11 AM
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In the USA or other countries?
US of A. Unlike here, the few countries we wanted to move to actually enforce their immigration laws, so it would've been a terrible time consuming and stressful hardship to do it legally. We did contemplate jumping the fence, but again, the handful of countries we were looking at would give us a huge smackdown followed by a boot out the door so we are stuck here.
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