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Old 12-22-2020, 06:44 AM
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It’s permanent for many.
Businesses realized they could still function effectively and efficiently and even increase profit margins by going full on remote. Many have no intentions of going back to brick and mortar.
If you dig you can find articles and interviews regarding this.
Can’t say I blame them even though I’m not too thrilled about the ramifications, mainly the influx of morons this movement is enabling to relocate and conquer “the country “.
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Old 12-22-2020, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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lol No. People won't move to rural areas just because they can work remotely

Rural America has terrible internet access and poor schools. Hardly a magnet for working remotely.
I live in a town of 235.

Our phone company is currently installing fiber-optic to each home [including homes without Public Utility power, and homes in the sections of town without paved roads].

We have already seen two parties [from L.A. with telecommuting jobs] buy homes here in our township. Their intent is to sit outside in dense forest while they are on their laptops writing code.

When we first settled here, we had relatives come to visit because they could walk 20 paces into the woods around our house, at that distance they would have lost visibility of our house.

Or they could go sit on the riverbank and watch the river.
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Old 12-22-2020, 09:36 AM
 
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The guilty parties argue that rural automatically means “backwards” and “primitive “ and are of the impression or, give the illusion, that they are saving us. All the while either making a ton of money or just trying to change things to better suit their personal needs.
People who move into the rural country typically know what they're getting into. Or don't (because they decide it's not for them). Alas, if a place gets big enough, taxes for the greater good should go up since at various points, it's easier to solve issues as a society vs. going "strong, independent" about it.
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Old 12-22-2020, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Florida
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People who move into the rural country typically know what they're getting into. Or don't (because they decide it's not for them). Alas, if a place gets big enough, taxes for the greater good should go up since at various points, it's easier to solve issues as a society vs. going "strong, independent" about it.
Easier = more government ... right? However IMO, Easier does not = better, but it does increased the tax burden on high income folks.

The greater good doesn't always compute to "a more perfect Union" or "promote the general welfare". Notice the preamble says "promote", not fund... there is a difference and it isn't semantics.
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Old 12-22-2020, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Easier = more government ... right?
My life experience has taught me that the more over invasive the local government is, the higher the taxes are, and this in-directly proportional to the 'ease' of living there.

More government = higher taxes and fewer freedoms.

I have owned five homes, I have experienced urban and rural.



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... The greater good doesn't always compute to "a more perfect Union" or "promote the general welfare". Notice the preamble says "promote", not fund... there is a difference and it isn't semantics.
Most problems that our modern society has, are all directly attributable to some government solution.

When government tries to implement some solution, that engenders the problems of tomorrow.
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Old 12-22-2020, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Florida
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My life experience has taught me that the more over invasive the local government is, the higher the taxes are, and this in-directly proportional to the 'ease' of living there.

More government = higher taxes and fewer freedoms.

I have owned five homes, I have experienced urban and rural.





Most problems that our modern society has, are all directly attributable to some government solution.

When government tries to implement some solution, that engenders the problems of tomorrow.
We are simpatico
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Old 12-22-2020, 06:44 PM
 
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Easier = more government ... right? However IMO, Easier does not = better, but it does increased the tax burden on high income folks.

The greater good doesn't always compute to "a more perfect Union" or "promote the general welfare". Notice the preamble says "promote", not fund... there is a difference and it isn't semantics.
You want to maintain your own roads? Pay out of pocket for a larger police force? Deliver your own mail? Supply your own electricity? Other government services? Have at it!
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Old 12-22-2020, 08:49 PM
 
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I live in a town of 235.

Our phone company is currently installing fiber-optic to each home [including homes without Public Utility power, and homes in the sections of town without paved roads].

We have already seen two parties [from L.A. with telecommuting jobs] buy homes here in our township. Their intent is to sit outside in dense forest while they are on their laptops writing code.

When we first settled here, we had relatives come to visit because they could walk 20 paces into the woods around our house, at that distance they would have lost visibility of our house.

Or they could go sit on the riverbank and watch the river.
you're fortunate that your provider is installing fiber optic. In most of the country, the big providers have abandoned investing in fiber for residential zones and instead are betting on 5G to serve dense suburbs and cities.

most of rural America has terrible to no high speed internet access:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/29/us/ru...rnd/index.html
https://www.fastcompany.com/90578964...oadband-access
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/24/84341...-rural-america
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Old 12-22-2020, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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you're fortunate that your provider is installing fiber optic. In most of the country, the big providers have abandoned investing in fiber for residential zones and instead are betting on 5G to serve dense suburbs and cities.

most of rural America has terrible to no high speed internet access:
Every phone bill has an assortment of taxes added on at the end. One of those extra taxes is to fund rural development.

Our phone company IS NOT investing anything. They applied for a grant to access the funding that is already available.
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Old 12-22-2020, 09:48 PM
 
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Every phone bill has an assortment of taxes added on at the end. One of those extra taxes is to fund rural development.
yep, and whatever is captured by those taxes will never be enough to close the gap, so the FCC keeps coming with more funds and programs to pay for this.

https://www.cnet.com/news/fcc-propos...-fund-auction/
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