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The one enduring characteristic of rural communities that repels city folk is guns. As long as rural folk cling to their guns and religion (as a recent President put it), it will serve as a kind of inoculation against being overrun.
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I kinda doubt this as a general statement. I would guess that an enduring characteristic of rural communities that repels city folks is lack of jobs, lack of city amenities, distance from/quality of medical care, and the challenges of learning a whole lot of new skills and practices. Also many rural communities are quite insular and have a low tolerance for anyone different than they are, which can be very disappointing.
City people are used to diversity in a way that country people are not. They are also used to a different kind of privacy, the privacy of anonymity in a crowd, and it can be disturbing when the postmistress knows that your sister is visiting and that you have painted your barn an unusual color which everyone disapproves of.
If you survey rural communities which become 'overrun' with city people, I expect you'll usually find that there is either a big tourist draw (often seasonal) or some way to commute to good jobs, and developers are showing up to capitalize on this.
I kinda doubt this as a general statement. I would guess that an enduring characteristic of rural communities that repels city folks is lack of jobs, lack of city amenities, distance from/quality of medical care, and the challenges of learning a whole lot of new skills and practices.
This is fair to a point. One structural element of being rural is it's a long ways from anything found in cities.
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Also many rural communities are quite insular and have a low tolerance for anyone different than they are, which can be very disappointing.
At least in this area, this is only true if the "different than they are" means outspoken about changing local norms. When city people come in to a rural area or small town and immediately start complaining about the way things are here, and the locals don't like it, which side is being intolerant?
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City people are used to diversity in a way that country people are not.
I think this is a bit funny.
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They are also used to a different kind of privacy, the privacy of anonymity in a crowd, and it can be disturbing when the postmistress knows that your sister is visiting and that you have painted your barn an unusual color which everyone disapproves of.
This IS true, and a very good point.
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This is fair to a point. One structural element of being rural is it's a long ways from anything found in cities.
At least in this area, this is only true if the "different than they are" means outspoken about changing local norms. When city people come in to a rural area or small town and immediately start complaining about the way things are here, and the locals don't like it, which side is being intolerant?...........
Both of these bear repeating and be internalized by anyone from an urban or suburban area planning to move to a rural area.
There are reasons why Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, a cutting edge coffee shoppe, obscure ethnic restaurants, and so on don't locate in rural areas. The reasons generally orbit around population density and income.
Saying that you "Love this little town but ______________ has to change" is a sure way to not make friends as is advocating for expensive and unaffordable social programs. Don't complain that there's no Performing Arts Center for the theatre group you just organized to use when the local high school will let use the one there whenever you want.
Don't say "We didn't do things/wouldn't tolerate (insert whatever it is you don't like) back in the city". There are usually very good reasons why those things aren't done.
Don't lobby for streetlights on the rural road where you moved. Same for sidewalks.
Don't file a police report about the old "vagrants" having coffee at the gas station (remember, there isn't a cutting edge coffee shoppe). Those old "vagrants" went to high school together, worked, hunted and fished together for years and at least one of them could buy and sell your elitist ass just from his petty cash box.
Why would you say it is a reach?
Only because you don’t want to admit that conservatives in power want to use their power to push their own agendas/POV...
TN residents elected that rep for one area but consider the reaction of other reps...
There could have been backlash in the legislature to prevent his action
It didn’t happen
Likely many were happy to have one person carry the bucket, take any heat but still get the msg across
It is a red flag that TN can’t even do something symbolically that is more middle of road regarding people with lifestyles that are “outside” what their consider “normal”.
Note that the performer in question has been reluctant to admit his sexual orientation in his home state
Likely because he knew the reaction it would bring
So yes I think people with lifestyles that aren’t popular with alt right conservatives already know TN has people who don’t welcome them and their differences...
Are their people in TN who are more open-minded? Sure but they aren’t running the state legislature
Because there are plenty gays and lesbians in TN. There is no legislation or discrimination against gays and lesbians in TN. And because one man who objected to an SJR for honoring a celebrity hardly equates to the entire state telling gay people not to move to TN. That is just ridiculous.
And of course conservative politicians push their agenda as do liberal politicians, that is the nature of the game. TN is a red state so it will be more conservative. If you are a extreme liberal you probably want to live in a liberal state.
Honoring celebrities or more specifically having an objection to the technicalities of a bill introduced to honor a celebrity, is hardly a decisive indicator of an entire states acceptance of sexual orientation.
Like-minded replies? To what? She didn't offer an opinion, she asked for advice. People responded as if she offered some kind of political opinion and instead of giving her advice, started immediately mocking and deriding her. No one who made those posts had any actual advice for her, so what would be the point of her staying?
the title begins liberal leaning. the ending paragraph refers to snubbing Knoxville due to her political leanings and not fitting in, followed up by stressing left leaning.
I kinda doubt this as a general statement. I would guess that an enduring characteristic of rural communities that repels city folks is lack of jobs, lack of city amenities, distance from/quality of medical care, and the challenges of learning a whole lot of new skills and practices. Also many rural communities are quite insular and have a low tolerance for anyone different than they are, which can be very disappointing.
City people are used to diversity in a way that country people are not. They are also used to a different kind of privacy, the privacy of anonymity in a crowd, and it can be disturbing when the postmistress knows that your sister is visiting and that you have painted your barn an unusual color which everyone disapproves of.
If you survey rural communities which become 'overrun' with city people, I expect you'll usually find that there is either a big tourist draw (often seasonal) or some way to commute to good jobs, and developers are showing up to capitalize on this.
Another aspect that is often not realized (or even known about) is the difference between a specialist and generalist culture. Cultures that don't follow the seasons or perhaps the military can be very specialist to where the belief of "that's not my job!" can prevail. Generalist cultures, on the other hand, tend to be cross trained for if the job does not get done by someone, you starve (or at least traditionally).
Learning how to do things yourself is necessary for it can be quite expensive, often due to the distance, to call someone up to come do the work for you. I was once like that. My doorbell wasn't working, so they came out and fixed it for me, and it cost me a $100!
the title begins liberal leaning. the ending paragraph refers to snubbing Knoxville due to her political leanings and not fitting in, followed up by stressing left leaning.
Lots of posters gave advice.
She didn’t snub Tennessee she said she felt she wouldn’t fit in there. She wasn’t mentioning liberal for any reason except to want to fit in with like-minded people. She asked where she might find such a place in a rural area. She wasn’t insulting toward conservatives or conservative areas in any way, but many of the responses seemed to be insulting toward liberals and the poster herself.
She didn’t snub Tennessee she said she felt she wouldn’t fit in there. She wasn’t mentioning liberal for any reason except to want to fit in with like-minded people. She asked where she might find such a place in a rural area. She wasn’t insulting toward conservatives or conservative areas in any way, but many of the responses seemed to be insulting toward liberals and the poster herself.
I think I have been trying to discern exactly what liberal or leftist ideas the poster really cares about. Because there is a irreconcilable conflict between the the things she's looking for, and "liberal" political realities.
Words mean different things to different people, and the details in this case matter. There's nothing insulting about trying to be clear about exactly what politics or ideas she's either looking for, or looking to avoid.
She didn’t snub Tennessee she said she felt she wouldn’t fit in there. She wasn’t mentioning liberal for any reason except to want to fit in with like-minded people. She asked where she might find such a place in a rural area. She wasn’t insulting toward conservatives or conservative areas in any way, but many of the responses seemed to be insulting toward liberals and the poster herself.
Honestly, I wish more city folk would have enough self-awareness to either (1) stay in their liberal paradise or (2) move to a more conservative district but don't try to change it into what they escaped from.
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