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Old 07-06-2022, 06:32 PM
 
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I went to the place for the long weekend and was able to pull out the medicine bottle left at my place. There is name on the bottle.

Is this info of any use? It could be from someone unrelated. Will police be spending time on this stuff? Seems even bigger problems are not being dealt with... Or is there something I can do MYSELF with this info?

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Every place is different. I used to live out in the country and morons do actually dump garbage thinking it is OK. Here if they are dumb enough to dump anything with their name on it the police WILL charge them with with as many crimes as they commited depending on the location of the dumped garbage. This is from multiple personal experiances.

As for just trespassing with no harm done to the property there is very little that can be done becuase of hunting laws. As a trespasser you can just say you shot whatever is in season and it ran/flew on to the property and you are just looking for it.

On a side note I had a tree strip about 100 yards wide and 500 yards long. Hemp grows wild all over around here and my tree stip was full of it. Mainly high school kids would see it and trespass to take some thinking they could get high from it. I had a barbed wire fence. Personally I found this funny but opinions vary. You could hear them stop. So I would get out my 3 1/2 inch 12 gauge shotgun and wait for them to get across the fence into my property. Then walk out to the road and fire a couple shots up into the air. Those kids would hit that fence and cut the heck out of themselves trying to get away. Sometimes the driver would stay in the car and when I fired into the air they would take off and leave the others behind. I lived 12 miles from town.

 
Old 07-06-2022, 07:12 PM
 
Location: In a Really Dark Place
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See if the name on the bottle matches that of any of your neighbors. Then if it does, pay them a visit and share your concerns.

It's a first step in a process of elimination
 
Old 07-07-2022, 07:24 AM
 
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Common for tweakers to carry "other" pills in a bottle prescribed to them (their name). This is why your prescriptions now carry a visual description of the meds the label. Easy for a lazy cop to make the same mistake you just did and look the other day thinking s/he just has chronic indigestion.
By the same token, I don’t think you can assume the pill belongs to the trespasser. It’s possible he stole medicine from someone, thinking it was something better than heartburn medication.
 
Old 07-07-2022, 10:34 AM
 
Location: In a Really Dark Place
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Why would you spend 24 hours over God knows how long of a period hiding and waiting for someone who might or might not come back, when you could just put cameras up and see if anyone comes?
If you read the initial post in this thread, the O.P. laments that police are 30 minutes away, and asks what a property owner can do to hold a trespasser "accountable".

That sounds to me like a person who is willing to invest the time necessary to intercept the perpetrator(s). If the police can't be there, yet the property owners wishes to force the trespasser to take responsibility, then the owner is going to have to either hire a contractor, or roll up their own sleeves.

There are tools such as camera systems, that can make his job easier....but the simple fact remains that currently the perp is enjoying the knowledge that the property sits vacant when they are doing their bit.

If the property owner follows my suggestion and "occupies discreetly" the property sufficiently long to intercept and confront the perp.......then the perp will never again have the comfort in knowing that "nobody" is home at this particular location.

Putting a face on the landlord's wishes can have a lasting effect.


One other thing the O.P. might consider, is going to his nearest shopping mall, and asking to talk to the director of security. When I was working at a large mall out there in California, we had an in house security staff....and being duly licensed as a security agency, the guards were lawfully able to detain shoplifters long enough to transfer to police custody.

It's been years, but if I recall properly the set of requirements one must fulfill are less rigorous for some one intending to police only their own property vs providing a "for hire" service, as a contractor.


But, if the OP isn't even willing to get out the phone book and see if the name on that prescription bottle matches anyone within a mile or so of the site, then there isn't much point in considering "more involved" solutions.

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Old 07-07-2022, 11:05 PM
 
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Yes, even if LE gets involved, they will ask for evidence.

Cameras are necessary but not sufficient in themselves. Same for relying on LE. Stopping these two-legged dregs of society will require more effort than just those.
 
Old 07-10-2022, 08:28 PM
 
Location: In the Pearl of the Purchase, Ky
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Smith and Wesson. Works every time for tresspassers.
I knew there would be a "go ahead, make my day" person in here somewhere.

A few years ago a man near Paducah, Ky. saw some men taking things from his storage unit. One man ran to the pick up and the unit owner shot and killed him. He got a little "visit" to the state penitentiary.

https://www.insideselfstorage.com/co...orage-facility

https://westkentuckystar.com/News/Lo...in-Prison.aspx
 
Old 07-10-2022, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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[quote=kygman;63777735]I knew there would be a "go ahead, make my day" person in here somewhere.

A few years ago a man near Paducah, Ky. saw some men taking things from his storage unit. One man ran to the pick up and the unit owner shot and killed him. He got a little "visit" to the state penitentiary.

Deservedly so !
 
Old 07-12-2022, 10:11 AM
 
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I knew there would be a "go ahead, make my day" person in here somewhere.

A few years ago a man near Paducah, Ky. saw some men taking things from his storage unit. One man ran to the pick up and the unit owner shot and killed him. He got a little "visit" to the state penitentiary.

https://www.insideselfstorage.com/co...orage-facility

https://westkentuckystar.com/News/Lo...in-Prison.aspx
According to this story, he shot the guy in the back when he ran off. Of course he's facing a murder charge. You don't have the right to kill someone for running away, even on your own property let alone a storage place.

Next please?
 
Old 07-12-2022, 10:58 AM
 
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According to this story, he shot the guy in the back when he ran off. Of course he's facing a murder charge. You don't have the right to kill someone for running away, even on your own property let alone a storage place.

Next please?
But you said a homeowner can legally hold a trespasser at gunpoint....so what happens if the trespasser turns and just walks/runs away?
 
Old 07-12-2022, 12:45 PM
 
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But you said a homeowner can legally hold a trespasser at gunpoint....so what happens if the trespasser turns and just walks/runs away?
First of all this is a storage area, not private property.

Second, in that situation they call your bluff and run off. (I think this guy drove away though). I clearly said at least once you can't shoot someone in the back. Not many people will run and turn around when approached with a shotgun. However I'm guessing if you accidentally (or not) shot a robber in the back in the dark in your house if they breached it you'd probably not face charges at least in this state.
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