Moving to Elk Grove , thoughts?

[ryuns]

Originally Posted by Think About It!

I think I understand what you are trying to say but it spews ignorance. People dress the way they want to dress to portray who they either are or want to be.

Now, if everything in your life is sunshine and rainbows, fine, believe what you want.

It kind of is the "if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck".

Just caught this reply so this is obviously not a very timely response, and you're obviously reading too much into what I said. (And responding in an oddly harsh fashion...) Yes, I understand that people generally purposely convey *something* superficially. And I understand that a lot of those people are jack-offs. But the truth that most of those people don't wish me any harm (and they probably think I dress like an idiot too.) So as to your second line, I suppose my answer is "Good, I will allow my life to be sunshine and rainbows". Because what is my alternative? What does that gain me relative to the stress it causes? I suppose you can make the case that a sharp eye keeps you out of trouble, but really, I'm just not in those types of neighborhoods very often anyway. If I tried to act that way in a neighborhood as diverse as Midtown, I'd be avoiding people every other block.

[Malloric]

Originally Posted by bluevelo

I'm not that unhappy here. I'm simply pointing out that Sacramento is really shabby - especially for how much the housing costs - compared to a lot of other metro areas, even in the "nice" places. Dayton, OH, Indianapolis, Cincinnati, Atlanta, Denver all have much nicer burbs than Sacramento does.

Sacramento does tend to suffer from being last stop California. Cheap housing means a lot of people who couldn't make it in the Bay Area end up here.

[caligirlz]

Originally Posted by Malloric

Sacramento does tend to suffer from being last stop California. Cheap housing means a lot of people who couldn't make it in the Bay Area end up here.

LOL. I always thought the last stop was Goshen. There are cities in California far worse than Sacramento. Perhaps not of comparable size, but definitely "worse"....((the central valley between Lodi & Bakersfield))

[u225615]

Originally Posted by Malloric

Sacramento does tend to suffer from being last stop California. Cheap housing means a lot of people who couldn't make it in the Bay Area end up here.

Is that true for Sacramento? Because I know a lot of people from the Bay Area and LA who moved to places like Folsom and EDH. Sold their bungalow in the valley in SoCal or not so fabulous forties home in SF and bought a stylish home up here with good schools and low crime. I guess I define making it in the Bay Area with owning a home because that really is the major expense and hurdle

[ryuns]

Originally Posted by caligirlz

LOL. I always thought the last stop was Goshen. There are cities in California far worse than Sacramento. Perhaps not of comparable size, but definitely "worse"....((the central valley between Lodi & Bakersfield))

Goshen! Nice. Lots of podunks in the central valley that are just sad, impoverished places. the kinds of palces that inspire the perennial "California's Appalachia" stories.

But as for comparable size? I think Fresno and Bakersfield probably count. But it's still not a very useful comparison. Big cities just vary too much from one area to another, and, of course, there are things like cost of living that make a big impact. I guess I get a comparison like bluevelo makes when he says, essentially, the suburbs here are either dingier or more expensive than a lot of other cities. Now, I don't know whether that's true, but all the same, for every bluevelo, there's a ryuns, who proclaims, "what a great city...I never thought I'd be able to live in a big city, afford a house in a historic neighborhood, easy biking distance to all the entertainment spots and my work downtown."