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Old 06-24-2015, 03:55 PM
 
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Right now the Bureau of Reclamation is releasing massive amounts of water out of Folsom.

Just a short while ago we had double the water in Folsom since 2014 (Folsom Lake Levels Nearly Double What They Were In 2014 « CBS Sacramento)

But releases are so heavy out of Folsom (CDEC - Data Application) that it is expected to cut off water to half a million people when it goes dry in September.

http://www.pcwa.net/files/News_Relea...ake_Levels.pdf

“If the current plan remains unchanged and we experience a dry fall, we could see half a million people in the region without water,” PCWA General Manager, Einar Maisch said. “This could, in effect, destroy the entire region’s economy.”



I think it is time to go to the officials and act now before they allow this crisis to happen. Perhaps a lawsuit can be organized? Time is running out
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Old 06-24-2015, 05:28 PM
 
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Thank you, eco fiends! Blocking Auburn was a great help too! :P
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Old 06-24-2015, 05:42 PM
 
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Eco fiends? Environmentalists have lost every big battle surrounding water in CA. We've dammed just about every waterway possible.

Auburn hasn't happened due to a variety of factors, environmental protection is only a small piece of it. Even if it were dammed don't think you'd have a full Folsom or water security for the metro area in these conditions.

But sure, this drought is the environmentalists fault.
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Old 06-24-2015, 06:30 PM
 
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Eco fiends? Environmentalists have lost every big battle surrounding water in CA. We've dammed just about every waterway possible.

Auburn hasn't happened due to a variety of factors, environmental protection is only a small piece of it. Even if it were dammed don't think you'd have a full Folsom or water security for the metro area in these conditions.

But sure, this drought is the environmentalists fault.

So you're good with half million people without any water just so the river can be cooled a couple degrees? 500 years ago when there was a severe drought here I'm sure the fish population might have been affected but they are still alive today no?
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Old 06-24-2015, 09:11 PM
 
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If you don't like it, complain to the people making the decisions. Let your voice be heard!

Bureau of Reclamation: Contact Us
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Old 06-24-2015, 10:55 PM
 
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So you're good with half million people without any water just so the river can be cooled a couple degrees? 500 years ago when there was a severe drought here I'm sure the fish population might have been affected but they are still alive today no?
Our water infrastructure is almost at a breaking point. Agriculture or ecosystem. You choose agriculture.
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Old 06-25-2015, 08:46 AM
 
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Eco fiends? Environmentalists have lost every big battle surrounding water in CA. We've dammed just about every waterway possible.

Auburn hasn't happened due to a variety of factors, environmental protection is only a small piece of it. Even if it were dammed don't think you'd have a full Folsom or water security for the metro area in these conditions.

But sure, this drought is the environmentalists fault.
Auburn. Temperance Flat. Orestimba. The proposed Sites reservoir. Shasta Dam raised.

And those don't even touch the "wild and scenic rivers" of the North Coast. (In a state prone to alternating cycles of drought and flood, and in need of clean renewable hydropower, anyone who gets goo-goo over "Wild and scenic rivers" needs to be committed.)

But the endgame is to essentially make much of the San Joaquin Valley fallow. So yes, it is the eco-fiend's scheme:

Cong. Nunes: Man-Made Drought: A Guide To California's Water Wars - California Political Review
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Old 06-25-2015, 10:46 AM
 
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“If the current plan remains unchanged and we experience a dry fall, we could see half a million people in the region without water,” PCWA General Manager, Einar Maisch said. “This could, in effect, destroy the entire region’s economy.”
He's saying if Folsom Res runs out of water and there's a severe water crisis, blame the USBR and not the local water district.

This is a finger-pointing exercise... the PCWA and the other local water agencies haven't done their full share to save water. Where's the emergency order to stop ALL lawn watering? If the situation is really so dire they should do that, but they don't have the political courage to do it. Instead they whine that having to cut back 25 or 30 percent is too much.

So while the farmers are on their last legs, the fishing industry is on its last legs, PCWA and the other local water agencies are still trying to save lawns. And they still haven't prohibited personal car washing. Everybody's got to share the pain here.
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Old 06-25-2015, 11:57 AM
 
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"The air in the San Joaquin Valley this late-June is, of course, hot and dry, but also dustier and more full of particulates than usual. This year a strange flu reached epidemic proportions. I say strange, because after the initial viral symptoms subsided, one’s cough still lingered for weeks and even months. Antibiotics did not seem to faze it. Allergy clinics were full. Almost every valley resident notices that when orchards and vineyards are less watered, when row cropland lies fallow, when lawns die and blow away, when highway landscaping dries up, nature takes over and the air becomes even filthier. Green elites lecture that agriculture is unnatural, without any idea why pre-civilized, pre-irrigated, and “natural” California was an empty place, whose dry, hazy climate and dusty winds made life almost impossible. The state is running on empty."

California: Running On Empty | Works and Days

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Old 06-25-2015, 12:13 PM
 
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Green elites lecture that agriculture is unnatural, without any idea why pre-civilized, pre-irrigated, and “natural” California was an empty place, whose dry, hazy climate and dusty winds made life almost impossible. The state is running on empty."
Agriculture is an incredible asset of California and should be preserved as much as possible. It's not unnatural as humans have been cultivating the earth for millenia. It's all about finding the proper balance and sharing the pain, unfortunately.

I don't know what that guy is on, but that's not the climate pre-European California had. Plus the idea that it was empty and uncivilized is funny. The native population was one of the densest in the US and there was a ton of trading and cultural interaction happening. But import 50K old world miners and traders and now boom it's civilized.
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