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Old 12-06-2019, 04:55 PM
 
Location: where the good looking people are
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No need to be rude, Wizzy. Wizard is missing the point, the “shabby” areas are a bargain to buy a first home live in it for 2-3 years, then move up. I’ve done it, and many others have done it, it’s doable in Sacramento. Those “shabby” areas were once nice, and can be again.
Those places are not a bargain. They are a rip off. A 60 year old house, that needs 30k in repairs, in a neighborhood with homes in similar despair, with bad schools, higher property crime and quality of life issues is not a 'bargain'. That's called "You get what you pay for. Pay cheap, get cheap".

Those are places people move to because they have to, not because they want to.

That's why condo's/townhouses sell so well in nice school districts, even though those are traditionally much harder to sell than houses. It makes more sense to buy a nice townhouse in Roseville for 300k, than to buy a fixer upper in Orangevale.
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Old 12-06-2019, 06:15 PM
 
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For San Juan High Schools unified you got Mira Loma, Rio Americano, and Bella Vista. Those are the ones that make the grade. Encino is a hell no. Mesa Verde and San Juan are also a no. Del Campo has fallen from grace and is quite lackluster.

Casa Roble is kinda meh. Working class Orangevale. El Camino is what I would go to, if my kid was not in Mira Loma, Rio, or Bella.

On a whole, San Juan simply can not market itself the way Roseville, Rocklin, Davis, El Dorado Hills, Folsom and Granite Bay schools can. When you throw in the "newer" housing stock, parks, low crime rates too? This is why these 6 areas are the most sought after by families.

San Juan is basically a bang for your buck school district. It doesn't have the level of dysfunction found in Sacramento Unified, and is cheaper than the "in demand" school districts.
I totally forgot about Mesa, Mira Loma, and Encino. Yes, all of those are a big fat no.

My wife is a DC grad and, yes, it's gone way down hill.

It's ironic that you put EC as a go to school, that's the school I went to and the school all my classmates originally taught at and then one by one left for greener pastures.

We fought to put our kid in a Roseville school. I'm so glad we did, I couldn't imagine sending a child to San Juan HS.
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Old 12-06-2019, 07:32 PM
 
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I totally forgot about Mesa, Mira Loma, and Encino. Yes, all of those are a big fat no.

My wife is a DC grad and, yes, it's gone way down hill.

It's ironic that you put EC as a go to school, that's the school I went to and the school all my classmates originally taught at and then one by one left for greener pastures.

We fought to put our kid in a Roseville school. I'm so glad we did, I couldn't imagine sending a child to San Juan HS.
I don't put El Camino High as a go to school per se. It rates at about 7/10-decidedly mediocre. But it is a fundamental school, which means as long as you live in the district and your kid abides by the rules, they are welcome to enroll.

I would say that it is a good option.... IF the alternative is Del Campo, Encino, Mesa, and San Juan. All of which rank much lower.
As far as me personally, I would not send my kid to a school that ranked lower than an 8.

Rankings per Great Schools.org
Mira Loma -7/10
Rio Americano-8/10
Bella Vista 9/10
Encina-1/10
El Camino-7/10
Casa Roble-5/10-
San Juan-2/10
Mesa Verde-4/10
Del Campo-5/10

1/10= the worst 2/10 = awful 3/10=horrible 4/10 = bad 5/10=unmeritorious 6/10= lack luster 7/10 = mediocre 8/10=okay 9/10 = decent 10/10 good
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Old 12-07-2019, 06:05 PM
 
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Do schools matter if you never plan to have kids? Why or why not? Real estate prices are way higher in areas close to good schools. All that matters to me is close to work and low crime area. I don't have kids or plans for it.
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Old 12-07-2019, 08:29 PM
 
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I think commuting is for the birds, so if I were you I'd look in Land Park, South Land Park, Pocket, Greenhaven instead. Sac City USD has several great neighborhood schools in those areas as well as other school options like Birney, SES, DaVinci, etc.
Good advice!
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Old 12-07-2019, 08:44 PM
 
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I totally forgot about Mesa, Mira Loma, and Encino. Yes, all of those are a big fat no.

My wife is a DC grad and, yes, it's gone way down hill.

It's ironic that you put EC as a go to school, that's the school I went to and the school all my classmates originally taught at and then one by one left for greener pastures.

We fought to put our kid in a Roseville school. I'm so glad we did, I couldn't imagine sending a child to San Juan HS.
yep, San Juan High is a mess only 14% of students meet state standards in math and 28% in english. El Camino is a viable option for kids in the San Juan High district, it's an open enrollment school and easier to get into than the other area High Schools
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Old 12-07-2019, 11:07 PM
 
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That is why I rent now in midtown- I hate long a$$ commutes and half the office commutes from Elk Grove to downtown, ugh that must suck unless you come in at 5am and leave at 2pm. Other folks live in Roseville, Folsom and Natomas.
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:21 AM
 
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That is why I rent now in midtown- I hate long a$$ commutes and half the office commutes from Elk Grove to downtown, ugh that must suck unless you come in at 5am and leave at 2pm. Other folks live in Roseville, Folsom and Natomas.
We get that, but having kids in midtown is a big fat NO for most parents...unless they have a spare $10,000 a year to spend on private schools.

A large chunk of Christian Brothers High and St. Francis High students come from the grid, Curits Park, Land Park, and East Sac. They are nice neighborhoods, but Sac Unified stinks. Not thru any part of the teachers actions (for the most part), but rather a top heavy and incompetent administration staff.
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:36 AM
 
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Unfortunately buying anything in Land Park, Pocket, Curtis Park or midtown is super expensive now.
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:19 AM
 
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Unfortunately buying anything in Land Park, Pocket, Curtis Park or midtown is super expensive now.
Exactly, the people who can afford 7 to $800,000 for a four-bedroom house in Land Park can also afford private schools. It might cost them the annual vacation to Barbados, but it's doable
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