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Old 10-23-2020, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Great place to raise a family. Homelessness only affects large cities. San Fran/Oakland etc. have more in common in that regard with other major urban cities than they do with anywhere you would be living. Weather is a massive upgrade from Nebraska, that's for sure. You will pay a premium, no doubt, things are more expensive. Not everyone buys the Bentley at the dealership. Those moving to Texas are trading up lifestyle and weather for larger and cheaper homes (or they've bought into the constant cable news drumbeat).
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Old 10-23-2020, 01:50 PM
 
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Those moving to Texas are trading up lifestyle and weather for larger and cheaper homes (or they've bought into the constant cable news drumbeat).
Oh, so people flock to low COL cities because they're more materialistic? The shallow, materialistic people move out of California to Vegas, Phoenix, and Dallas while the deep, sophisticated Californians stay in California for the simple pleasures of life that can only be had for high taxes and a high COL?
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Old 10-23-2020, 02:02 PM
 
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People are moving from California for myriads of reasons and it is OK. Some are truly happy in a new place, some have second thoughts, some even come back. COL is a significant factor. But there are other factors as well. This morning, there was an article in Sac Bee about a conservative family that moved from Sacramento to Boise.
There is nothing wrong with Boise. If somebody is happy there- great.

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Old 10-23-2020, 02:07 PM
 
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People are moving from California for myriads of reasons and it is OK. Some are truly happy in a new place, some have second thoughts, some even come back. COL is a significant factor. But there are other factors as well. This morning, there was an article about a conservative family that moved from Sacramento to Boise.
There is nothing wrong with Boise. If somebody is happy there- great.
I totally get why they moved out of Sacramento. Boise seems like a booming town economically, so great employment. Although I personally would choose somewhere not as isolated or as gloomy during the winter.

Sacramento is underwhelming for a metro area of its size. Sacramento's main selling point is not the city itself but how it's only a couple hours from Tahoe and SF. If we're just talking about the city itself, then Sacramento is extremely underwhelming for a city of its size. Even OKC, a metro area with a million less people than Sacramento, feels like Sacramento's equal, and in some ways, more vibrant and impressive.

Sacramento is just too slow paced of a town. Sure, it's the state capital, but even other state capitals like Boise, SLC, and OKC and Austin have more private industry and are faster paced. Sacramento is extremely government dependent and moves at the lightning fast pace of government
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Old 10-23-2020, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Oh, so people flock to low COL cities because they're more materialistic? The shallow, materialistic people move out of California to Vegas, Phoenix, and Dallas while the deep, sophisticated Californians stay in California for the simple pleasures of life that can only be had for high taxes and a high COL?
Cheap homes and fellow Fox News viewers ;-)
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Old 10-23-2020, 02:14 PM
 
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Cheap homes and fellow Fox News viewers ;-)
But you could move to Bakersfield for that, too, right?

Then again, Bakersfield weather sucks almost as bad as DFW. DFW has tornadoes, but Bakersfield has horrible pollution from all the fires.
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Old 10-23-2020, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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even other state capitals like Boise, SLC, and OKC and Austin have more private industry and are faster paced. Sacramento is extremely government-dependent and moves at the lightning fast pace of government
Austin, sure I'll give you that. The others!!! Nope.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...n_areas_by_GDP

Austin 26th
Sacramento 27th
SLC 40th
OKC 46th

Boise - not on the list.
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Old 10-23-2020, 02:16 PM
 
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Austin, sure I'll give you that. The others!!! Nope.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...n_areas_by_GDP

Austin 26th
Sacramento 27th
SLC 40th
OKC 46th

Boise - not on the list.
Yeah, because the other metro areas are a lot smaller in population than Sacramento.

None of the above changes the fact that Sacramento is a sleepy, slow paced, underwhelming government town whose only sell is being in California and therefore close to Tahoe and SF.
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Old 10-23-2020, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Yeah, because the other metro areas are a lot smaller in population than Sacramento.

None of the above changes the fact that Sacramento is a sleepy, slow paced, underwhelming government town whose only sell is being in California and therefore close to Tahoe and SF.
It's certainly no LA, sure. But OKC, Boise and SLC are hardly New York. SLC is the very definition of sleepy. Boise is tiny. OKC is in Oklahoma.

Austin is great though. Best city on the list by far. Best city in Texas by some distance.
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Old 10-23-2020, 02:38 PM
 
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It's certainly no LA, sure. But OKC, Boise and SLC are hardly New York. SLC is the very definition of sleepy. Boise is tiny. OKC is in Oklahoma.

Austin is great though. Best city on the list by far. Best city in Texas by some distance.
I lived in Davis for school until 2019, when I moved to Greater OKC. I did go to Downtown Sac in 2018. Seemed pretty underwhelming, Downtown OKC just feels more vibrant and exciting.

Sacramento may have a superior location to OKC but as far as the downtowns to, OKC wins. Which is saying a lot, given that OKC is smaller than Sac in MSA population.
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