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Old 07-01-2023, 08:25 AM
 
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Yeah pretty much... No one does a thing. About twice a year CHP has a roadside check for smog compliance I think, other than that or CHP responding to a fatal vehicle crash no one seems to care.
Cool well not that I do but my car has good performance. Only when some clown is tailgating me and I don't want to get rear ended.
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Old 08-16-2023, 11:06 AM
 
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Tough on crime Judges appointed by Pete Wilson and Schwarzenegger single handedly made cities like SF playgrounds for wealthy white people by 2010. Even LA and Oakland's downtowns were making come backs.

No one wants to admitt it because it is expensive, but when you lock up people and throw away the key, the repeat offenders are kept at bay.

Vast majority of Felons are repeat offenders. Anyone sworn or even non sworn law enforcement will tell you 90% of the problems with crime are caused by 1% of the population.

Look at agencies like the probation office that now have a mission of keeping felons out of jail and making their lives as pain free as possible. That used to be an agency that focused on holding felons accountable.
Pete Wilson and Schwarzenegger did NOTHING to reduce crime anywhere. You lock people up you need to acknowledge that unless they committed homicide they will get out and when they do they will not be better, they will be worse. California prisons offer several peer run courses in criminality, and lifetime gang membership is mandatory. Do some research on these issues, if you do I think you will realize how mistaken you are.
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Old 08-16-2023, 11:18 AM
 
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I used to have fun in SF years ago like in 1990 was still sketchy but not a complete dump. It started going downhill really fast ten years ago. I can only imagine how bad it is now. Unfortunate that similar stuff is happening to Sacramento and many places in America.
Then why did you buy a house here? You spent enough time looking that I would expect you would have noticed all the "bad stuff" that you are now so conerned about
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Old 08-16-2023, 11:35 AM
 
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Ok, I'll try to be more direct, on this subject I don't think you know what you are talking about.
Just do downtown and see what areas still have not recovered from the "Social Justice" (sic) protests of 2020. Events in Minneapolis do not give rabble in Sacramento the right to loot, nor is it "privilege" to not want stores looted.

But hey, maybe you can get mugged one day too, that classic definition of a New Right/Conservative person being "a former Leftist person mugged by reality."
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Old 08-16-2023, 11:40 AM
 
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Pete Wilson and Schwarzenegger did NOTHING to reduce crime anywhere. You lock people up you need to acknowledge that unless they committed homicide they will get out and when they do they will not be better, they will be worse.
Well, they will at least not commit crime on the streets while they are locked up, and some of them do not deserve to get out as soon as they now do.

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California prisons offer several peer run courses in criminality, and lifetime gang membership is mandatory. Do some research on these issues, if you do I think you will realize how mistaken you are.
As for that, it is an argument for *more* funding, not less. Take back control of the prisons from the horrid gangs, stop letting the inmates run the places, and rehabilitate the criminals who can be rehabilitated.(Opening places like Pelican Bay, where those who make trouble in other prisons are sent, is a good step in this direction).
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Old 08-16-2023, 12:34 PM
 
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Well, they will at least not commit crime on the streets while they are locked up, and some of them do not deserve to get out as soon as they now do.



As for that, it is an argument for *more* funding, not less. Take back control of the prisons from the horrid gangs, stop letting the inmates run the places, and rehabilitate the criminals who can be rehabilitated.(Opening places like Pelican Bay, where those who make trouble in other prisons are sent, is a good step in this direction).
oh yeah you bet! Well, why didn't your Republican heros fix all of that when they ran the state? Once again you have no understanding of the prison system or how it works. Would you like me to provide you with some references that might help? Oh and by the way it costs $106,000 a year for each prison inmate, are you ready to pay for that for the number of inmates you are talking about confining to prison? And what will you do about the SCOTUS decision that promises to take over our prison system if we have too many inmates incarcerated (Brown V Plata)
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Old 08-16-2023, 12:45 PM
 
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Your reading comprehension appears to be limited. I pointed out that using heavily manipulated stats, as if it were scientific factual data, to prove crime is down is a fools errand.

The year 2021 saw homicide increas by 31% from 2020. Year over year. You read that right, 31%. That is literally INSANE. And 2022 only saw 4 less homicides than 2021.

Like I said, the liberal narrative that Sacramento is "safer" than it has ever been is simply false. It's more violent, with more unstable people on the street, thanks to the liberal 9th Appeals Court. And Judges can't throw the book at criminals even if they wanted to, thanks the liberal legislature that mandates soft punishment. But then most of the Judges appointed by Republicans are long since retired, so it's not like there is anyone willing to be tough from the bench.
Fewer.

People in glass houses.......
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Old 08-16-2023, 02:39 PM
 
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They have not run the state legislatively in three decades now, and that counts far more than who gets the Governor seat. Your Statute of Limitations has expired!
Oh...so your criteria is the legislature? I was responding to Valley Boy who said
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:"Tough on crime Judges appointed by Pete Wilson and Schwarzenegger single handedly made cities like SF playgrounds for wealthy white people by 2010. Even LA and Oakland's downtowns were making come backs"
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I realize it is expensive, but so are the hidden costs of crime, which, yes, do rebound on local economies hard. And what is the first and foremost function of a government? To protect the citizenry. Anything beyond that, even great infrastructure, does not matter if public safety fails. And your sneering does justify a Karmic Mugging, or frankly worse......
What you fail to comprehend is that Prison is a place where people who have proven themselves to be a danger to the public should be held. It is not a deterrent because most people who are arrested either don't care or they are so narcissistic that they think they can do whatever they want without getting caught. The money you want to use to send non-violent offenders to prison could be used to hire more cops who actually can reduce crime by frequent patrols and being able to respond to more calls for service. Non-violent offenders should repay their debt to the community, whether that is through assigned work or fines, or short confinement in a jail or half-way house, but not by sending them to prison. I'm sure you still don't believe me but just in case you ever get curious...

https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf
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Old 09-15-2023, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Elk Grove, CA
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Study from Yolo County DA comfirming what most of us on the job could see plain as day. Democrat utopia. A land ruled by criminals, for criminals.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/californi...l-reform-study
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Old 09-15-2023, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Elk Grove, CA
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Oh...so your criteria is the legislature? I was responding to Valley Boy who said Remember that?

What you fail to comprehend is that Prison is a place where people who have proven themselves to be a danger to the public should be held. It is not a deterrent because most people who are arrested either don't care or they are so narcissistic that they think they can do whatever they want without getting caught. The money you want to use to send non-violent offenders to prison could be used to hire more cops who actually can reduce crime by frequent patrols and being able to respond to more calls for service. Non-violent offenders should repay their debt to the community, whether that is through assigned work or fines, or short confinement in a jail or half-way house, but not by sending them to prison. I'm sure you still don't believe me but just in case you ever get curious...

https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf
More proof of liberal degenerate logic. So a person who sells child porn according to this guy should have a short stint I'm jail or a halfway houses with plenty of hugs and kisses.

The crook who steals millions of dollars scamming senior citizens out of retirement should not go to prison.

This is what coppers on the street are talking about. Liberals do not have a problem with crime or criminals, until it happens to them.
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