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Old 07-07-2009, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Citrus Heights, CA
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Hello all - I am getting ready to purchase an existing home in Citrus Heights and want to upgrade the HVAC system and make the home more energy efficient. I am planning to have a "whole house fan" type of fresh air ventilation system installed, and have an estimate from the actual Whole House Fan company to do so. However, I recently found out about Beutler Corps' SmarVent system, which basically runs the whole house fan type of fresh air exchange, but through a filtered inlet that uses the existing HVAC duct system and furnace blower.

Anyone out there have any experience with the Beutler SmartVent? Other than the cost, which I expect to be a bit more than the Whole House Fan, how has the system worked for you? It seems like a nice system, I just wonder if it is able to exchange as much air as fast.

Thanks!
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:07 PM
 
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We got a Whole House Fan and love it. Honestly, I can't remember why we went with that company, but I have heard they are the best whole house fan on the market. Have both companies give you bids and explain why they are better. We had ours put in and it has been wonderful and going strong for years!
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:22 AM
 
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I have the Buetler SmartVent and I installed a whole house fan in my brothers house. The whole house fan definetly exchanges alot more air quickly than the smart vent. However you have to open up your windows for it to work. It also draws in the pollutants and dust into your home. If it is outside the whole house fan will pull it in. The smartvent will draw air in from outside but then put it through the filter and through your air registers. You don't have to open the windows for it to work. Also you can have it set on your thermostat timer to come on early mornings or nights to pre cool your house.
Personally I would rather have a whole house fan. Its much faster. Only thing is you have to remember to open your windows. If thats not a problem (for example with an house alarm or something), I would get a whole house fan.
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Old 07-08-2009, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Citrus Heights, CA
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@ Rocketir - did you buy the home (new construction?) with the SmartVent already installed, or did you have it added to the home? I ask as it seems that Beutler has installed many of the SmartVents in recent new construction, which makes sense. Adding it to an existing home, however (my situation) seems to be more involved, and more cause for concern than the Whole House Fan installation since I will have to have the SmartVent intake vent added through the roof. Anytime you have to cut a new hole in the roof...pathway for leaks.

As far as the air filtration and safety concerns for opening up the windows for the whole house fan, I am not terribly concerned...though I do have allergies. I think the biggest advantage of the SmartVent is that it is tied into the existing HVAC system and thermostat controls.
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Old 07-09-2009, 10:29 AM
 
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Yeah, Bought a new home and Buetler installed during construction. I would think its would be quite the retrofit as they would need a new fresh air inlet in the roof as well as a new air intake on the inside of your house.
I just bought a house that does not have either a whole house fan or the smart vent. I plan on installing a whole house fan myself. I think it does a better/faster job. At my brothers house you can turn on the whole house fan and definetly feel the cool breeze coming in the windows. And it would cool the house down pretty fast, 30-60 minutes depending on the temps outside. With the Smart Vent I would have to run it for a few hours in the middle of the night for the temps to be lowered by the morning. Hope all this info helps.
Jesse
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Old 07-09-2009, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Citrus Heights, CA
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Thanks again Rocketir. I appreciate the info regarding your experience with both systems. You listed both of my main concerns regarding the SmartVent, 1) that the installation/retrofit for an existing home seems likely to be complicated/expensive, and 2) that a whole house fan can cool the house much faster.
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Old 04-30-2011, 09:09 PM
 
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Hello all - I am getting ready to purchase an existing home in Citrus Heights and want to upgrade the HVAC system and make the home more energy efficient. I am planning to have a "whole house fan" type of fresh air ventilation system installed, and have an estimate from the actual Whole House Fan company to do so. However, I recently found out about Beutler Corps' SmarVent system, which basically runs the whole house fan type of fresh air exchange, but through a filtered inlet that uses the existing HVAC duct system and furnace blower.

Anyone out there have any experience with the Beutler SmartVent? Other than the cost, which I expect to be a bit more than the Whole House Fan, how has the system worked for you? It seems like a nice system, I just wonder if it is able to exchange as much air as fast.

Thanks!
It's garbage. I paid extra to have it put in our house while being built. since 2004 it has never cooled down our house before leaving it ion all night until 3am. After 6 hours it gets less warm It is still broken right now. It won't even turn on. They sell garbage so you have to call beutler to get it fixed several times its expensive. Now the ducking is different. The installers put 45-95 degree angles in at least 5 places with crimps. When I called beutler and a "tech: came out he sait it was normal. I just spoke to an HVAC specialist of 40 years and he said that ducting should be smooth turns not crimps. Go with the guy that is installing a whole house fan. Quicker to cool down. And less to break and pay for the home service. No warentee of any decent service is given by Beutler. It breaks all ther time. I wish the Beutler family would really know whats going on with these shotty installations in their company. Just investigate.
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Old 05-01-2011, 01:40 PM
 
Location: El Dorado Hills, CA
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We love our whole house fan. Even in summer, just after dark we turn off the AC and turn on the fan. I'm sure it saves us a fortune in cooling costs.
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Old 08-01-2011, 07:47 PM
 
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No one should ever purchase the Beutler Smart Ventilation system. It is garbage. We purchased a new still under construction home in El Dorado Hills and paid $1200 to have the Smart vent system installed in 2001. It is so under powered it is pathetic. After 6-8 hours the house interior is only cooled 2 degrees. Consider that the cool air is pulled into the home via a vent on the roof and must travel through the attic, which is about 100-120 degrees maybe more, this cool air is heated while traveling through the duct work and then distributed thoughout the house, not very efficient. A whole house fan pulls in cool air through open windows which surrounds the home and immediatly cools the home. In 20 minutes you can expect a cooling of 10 degrees or more in a home with a whole house fan. Also with a whole house fan this cooler air is expelled out through the attic which further cools the house by cooling the 100-120 degree attic.
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Old 08-02-2011, 08:59 AM
 
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Whole house fan definately. I can see the benefit of the other system just way to inefficient for cooling.

Huh first necropost I ever made. Feels kinda weird. LOL
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