02-14-2011, 11:15 PM
Location: Tampa,Fl
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Hello all, I've been perusing the site since we found out about our potential move last week and have found a wealth of info from the lively community here.
Quick background on me and mine; Late 30's married man with a pair of wee ones (2 and 5 months) lived in Tampa most of my life with brief 1 year stints in PHX and ATL. While I'm not religiously inclined I bear no ill will or phobia to whatever someone chooses to do with their time. I work from home and also take care of said kids while the wife is interviewing for a national firm which happens to have a location in Draper (W 12300 S and I-15 area). Looking to rent for a year or so till we decide where in the city we would like to buy.
After lurking for a week I figured the best way to find out any unanswered questions would be to sign up and ask away, so let me preface any response with a thanks for your time....
I'm not a huge fan of suburbs, but now that I'm a married father my personal inclinations take a back seat and I'm adapting
.
I seem to keep going back to the Suncrest area. Living on a small mountain (or is it a hill?) seems incredible to me and the added bonus of no or even minor inversion (compared to the rest of the valley?) is great. I noticed Traverse Ridge Rd is long (and scenic I assume
) and the wife is more of a nervous driver than I am, google maps places it at a 20 min drive from the top neighborhood to her work so it doesn't seem outrageously out of the way. Should she be nervous? Coming from Florida we haven't seen much snow (1976 1.5'', I was 2) but we have driven in it before, on vacation..
We have several houses on the list that she hopes to look at this upcoming Thursday and Friday morning before the flight back to TPA. Majority of them are in Sandy with a few in Cottowood Heights and Draper. If all goes well with the interview than she'll be picking our next abode in a short amount of time. I felt like I had a lot more questions but now that it's a quarter past midnight over here I've forgotten most of them.
Well let's consider this a nice start and I'll get back to y'all when I'm not memory impaired...
02-15-2011, 09:21 AM
Location: Mostly in my head
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Well, if you don't mind your house sliding down the hillside, Suncrest is fine. That area is notoriously unstable, built on a former landslide area, and there was some scandal about how the builder got permission to develop the area. I'd run away from that area. Google it for more info. Cottonwood Heights is a good area and doesn't have those problems.
02-15-2011, 11:06 AM
Location: Utah
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I think Suncrest is typically pretty windy. Find something to rent up there for a while and see if the wind is an issue for you.
I've only been to Tampa once for business. It was really pretty--water all over the place. Visited a work colleague in St Pete and had dinner. It was weird (to me) that her backyard was basically a body of water with her boat sitting in the water. I'd never seen that before since I'm from Utah.
Supposed to have rain & snow Thurs. Too bad you'll miss our "warm" weather we've been having.
I hope all goes well during this process.
Let us know how your visit goes.
02-15-2011, 12:16 PM
Location: Tampa,Fl
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We were are definitely planning on renting for at least a year or more as we have never even been to Utah let alone the valley. I googled several phrases regarding Traverse Ridge Rd and Suncrest in Draper and the only thing I found regarding erosion was something back in '05 and bankruptcy issues with the developers in '08. I'm almost willing (idiotically perhaps) to trade the potential disaster for living with that view and (I'm assuming here) quiet.
Ultimately I'm a bit reticent regarding the whole area, live on the hill which could slide down with you on it or live in a valley which could be covered by said slide. No matter where you live there are some potential hazards by way of mother nature. The average elevation in Tampa is 35ft above sea level and the closer to the water you live the more likely that your property will be (don't ask me how) below or at sea level.
And as for wind we regularly have days with gusts of 20-30mph, not to mention hurricane season which is fun itself. What's the wind like, speed and consistency, up there?
St.Pete is great; beaches, music, & art venues (The new Dali Museum is amazing), and a nice mix of history and culture. But as of late with the economy issues (12.5% unemployment in the Bay area) violent crime has risen significantly, especially in St.Pete, something we won't miss in Utah I'm sure...
02-15-2011, 12:19 PM
Location: PA/FL/UT
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Hi Transferer, I am from Orlando area and moved to Utah about 3 years ago. We also have small children. I would love to give you advice, but personally, as someone who also had no experience in Utah before moving here, I centered where we would move to around where I worked. I work downtown and we choose Bountiful, which we love.
Where will you/spouse be working? I would also say Suncrest would be an experience for you if you or your spouse are not used to driving in snow. I would not recommend it. Good luck!
02-15-2011, 12:58 PM
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Well, if you don't mind your house sliding down the hillside, Suncrest is fine.
And you don't even have to buy lift tickets!
Sorry, couldn't resist.
02-15-2011, 12:59 PM
Location: The other side of the mountain
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There are some very nice new homes in Herriman. I am not really familiar with that area, but I think the subdivision is Rosecrest? Hmm..let me see if I can find a link.
The Village at Rosecrest Quick Facts
The wind that Traverse Mountain gets can be a lot more than 30mph. That is simply breezy there. The gusts there can reach up to 60+mph. That, coupled with the fact of Suncrest being a higher elevation, can make for some pretty cooooold winters.
02-15-2011, 01:50 PM
Location: Tampa,Fl
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It's a beautiful 75 here today to give everyone an idea of our "winters", of course when it hits below 40 it's with an attached 90% humidity that makes it seem much colder. Having lived in Phoenix for a year I was constantly bombarded with the "but it's a dry heat" idea and I can tell you wet heat is worse imho. Regardless we're in for a climate and culture shock I'm sure.
How much more cold can it get? Will my thin Florida blood even be able to tell the difference after it's below freezing? I assume I'll be spending little time outdoors for the first winter anyways until I can adjust (and purchase the proper attire). Personally I love wind, one of the best times of year down here is hurricane season when when we reach the same 60+ gusts, but then again it's never really cold during most of those storms.
Have any houses literally fallen down the hill? Fatalities? I couldn't find anything recent saying that things were worse or better. Obviously the housing market sucks everywhere, but we are only planning on renting for the first year or two. The wife has an interview Thursday and leaves in the afternoon the next day. We are hoping if it pans out that they'll fly us back to find a house, but if not we may be forced to decide on the fly. She's going to rent a car after the interview and try and tour the south/south-east parts of the city since she'll be working right of I-15 and 12300 S.
For lack of a better word (and because I did read it here on the forum), is Herriman a "Hickey" town? I'm a fan of Johnny Cash but that's about as close as I get to those of the ATV, dirtbike, F-250 on giant tires persuasion. It seems to be up and coming but I admit to having not done as much reading as I did about the south-east valley areas.
I know that no matter where I end up it won't be perfect (because nothing is) and ultimately once I live there I'll defend it fiercely as I simultaneously bad mouth the places I didn't select (I kid)...
02-15-2011, 06:39 PM
Location: Salt Lake City
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It's a beautiful 75 here today to give everyone an idea of our "winters", of course when it hits below 40 it's with an attached 90% humidity that makes it seem much colder. Having lived in Phoenix for a year I was constantly bombarded with the "but it's a dry heat" idea and I can tell you wet heat is worse imho. Regardless we're in for a climate and culture shock I'm sure.
How much more cold can it get? Will my thin Florida blood even be able to tell the difference after it's below freezing? I assume I'll be spending little time outdoors for the first winter anyways until I can adjust (and purchase the proper attire). Personally I love wind, one of the best times of year down here is hurricane season when when we reach the same 60+ gusts, but then again it's never really cold during most of those storms.
You might want to check out post #2 in the
Utah FAQs thread for more info on the weather around here.
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For lack of a better word (and because I did read it here on the forum), is Herriman a "Hickey" town? I'm a fan of Johnny Cash but that's about as close as I get to those of the ATV, dirtbike, F-250 on giant tires persuasion. It seems to be up and coming but I admit to having not done as much reading as I did about the south-east valley areas.
I'm thinking that, based on your comments, Herriman probably wouldn't be a good fit for you.
I know it wouldn't for me either, but it's really just a matter of taste.
If you're determined -- as it sounds like you are -- to have a place with a view, there are probably some parts of Draper that would fit the bill, without being as risky as Suncrest. Have you considered Daybreak? The views there are from the opposite angle, because you'd be on the west side of the valley as opposed to the east side. It's a lovely area.
02-15-2011, 06:40 PM
Location: Salt Lake City
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Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)