Which is better Daybreak or 9th and 9th/east SLC?

[NoodleKaboodle]

If you are planning on commuting to Salt Lake or somewhere in that area you are in for a drive if you move to Daybreak. Either you have to take Bangerter Highway(ton's of stoplights, 55 mph speed limit, terrible traffic) for 30+ miles or make a long trek up to I-15, and the east/west roads in the south end of the Salt Lake Valley are TERRIBLE or you have to pay around $100 a month for a UTA(transit authority) pass and take the light rail, you can ride the light rail into downtown or transfer to a commuter train at I-15. The houses are about 75-110 years newer in daybreak, but you have an HOA, 9th and 9th is one of the older neighborhoods in the area, so the houses have more "character" if you care about that. Daybreak is in a conservative mormon suburb, and 9th and 9th is more of a college/liberal neighborhood, due to the fact that it's a 10 minute drive to the University of Utah. The prices are similar, but you get more house in Daybreak. Daybreak has less crime, 9th and 9th is definitly more trendy, I don't know about the sense of community in daybreak, but there is a strong community in 9th and 9th. The schools are good in both area's. Personally i'd never live in Daybreak, but I can see why a big family would want to live in that area, and if your mormon daybreak is a no brainer.

[InSandy]

Ah, Bratton's,,, my younger siblings both worked there. And I am pretty sure one of the dances I went to our group ate at Der Ratskellers...good times for sure. Hiking the foothills behind our house
I'm glad I knew it when. But I have also heard from my mother about what it was like for her growing up when Foothill drive was dirt, and from my great uncle in the generation before that who would take their wheat to the mill at Liberty Park to be ground into flour. Time marches on and change is the only certainty.

[dcisive]

Yeah but if I had my hands on the time travel dial I could sure have some fun. Not sure I'd go past a certain point, and it wouldn't be to now

[stuckinsj]

Originally Posted by dcisive

@InSandy
I often lament on the times gone by in Salt Lake. I originally came out there for 3 years in 1978. It was a completely different place. Sure more solidly LDS to be sure but they never bothered me, and you could eat off the streets, there were NO gangs, NO graffiti, NO real crime to speak of and in those 3 years TWO (yeah you read right TWO) murders, both of which were quickly solved. I remember all too well heading up Millcreek Canyon early on a Sunday with my guitar, heading to the top and parking near a stream and playing for hours with absolutely NOBODY around, no cars, no screaming kids, no dogs. THAT was worth remembering. I learned to ski and an all day pass was $7 and the rentals not much more. There was NO such thing as "Rush Hour" and traffic always flowed freely. Food places I miss like Bratton's Sea Food Grotto, Snelgrove's, Der Rathskeller Pizza to name a few. West Valley City (which basically didn't exist) didn't have a bad reputation, just lower cost housing. Park City was a nice long country drive on a Sunday and once off I-80 a 2 lane road. Even my single level apartment which was tucked into a nicely wooded area in E. Millcreek was as quiet as could be. Sandy was just beginning to expand a little and was more like country at 90th south. Draper was nearly all just scrub oak. I may no longer have the nirvana it was back then, but at least I have the memory of it. Hard to believe it was ever like that looking at it now. I guess Joni Mitchell was right "Take Paradise"....put up a parking lot.......

What does this have to do with my questions? Its sorta a rant on development. I am asking about two neighborhoods NOW IN THE PRESENT> East SLC was already built by then. The nostalgia is so think i can hardly breathe.

[InSandy]

It really has nothing to do with your questions.... now why were you asking them again?

[stuckinsj]

gew .. whiz

Originally Posted by stuckinsj

I just came back from visiting SLC and wanted to know which is better Daybreak in South Jordan or 9th and 9th/east SLC?

This is my first time visiting the the Mountain West and dont know all of the little neighborhoods like 900 and 900 and to the east up the hill.

I visited both and found them to be quite a contrast. new v. old, seemly liberal v. seemly conservative, religious v. nonreligious, suburb v. city. Which is more expensive?, more popular? has better schools? Lower crime? sense of community? Which do you prefer?

I am genuinely interested as an outsider to learn what people really like about both and dislike about both.

[lucy1965]

I live in the Ninth and Ninth area, so --

I am seeing more families with small children around; my neighbors immediately to the south have a three-year-old daughter, those across the street have two and the neighbors on the corner have two children. All purchased their homes recently, as stock's turning over as families "age out" of needing homes this big and opt to downsize. I'll be doing the same in the next few months: my son and his partner have their own place in the Lower Avenues and there's a work opportunity in the PNW.

As someone who put the crime stats on the community website every month, I can tell you that the majority of crime in the area consists of tagging, car prowls and noise complaints. There has been a recent run of burglaries, involving houses where people have left their doors/garages unlocked, and there was a shooting not long ago: a woman tried running over a police officer attempting to serve a warrant, and was killed for her efforts.

Three grocery stores within walking distance, three great restaurants and several good ones, the largest public green space in the city two blocks away and people can go downtown and to the University via a five-minute bus ride and a short trip on TRAX: my son commuted that way daily for his entire time at the U. The veterinary clinic's been rated best in state for several years running, and there's a big off-leash dog park just the other side of 13th South: lots of dogs in the neighborhood and for the most part, people are good about cleaning up after them.

Yes, there are problems: as the houses are older, the utility bills are higher, and the community council had screaming hissy fits over the accessory dwelling unit proposals and, more recently, the "cement box" style of architecture in some of the new build homes. Arguments over the rents in the Business District have been loud and public; arguments over the possibility of a neighborhood pub have been louder and far more rancorous. Everyone loves the Ninth and Ninth Street Festival; no one wants to show up for set up or take down.

All in all, I've enjoyed my 12 years here. I'm ready for a house that's a little more modern -- less dusting, more air conditioning -- and a lot more rain, but there will be days when I miss the walk up to the Coffee Garden or the Tower Theatre, the soba at Kyoto, even the ladder trucks from Station 5 howling down 9th East.