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Old 02-22-2017, 01:27 PM
 
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Yes from Europe originally but have lived in many other places where healthcare is nowhere near what it costs in the US, I do get we have to wait sometimes for stuff however I have still had to wait to see a doctor there in the US and took 10 days to get a physical therapy appointment. I had private healthare in the UK if needed it and tbh rarely used it as the NHS was fine ,especially if critical like cancer treatment and means healthcare wont bankrupt you when something big or terminal illness arises even with insurance

Yes get the taxes things and agree Scandinavia does have high taxes however if you need the system it is there for you. Also you may have lower taxes in the US but that's where you get fooled as I found personally there are far more add on's in the US for everything whereas where we come from the price you see is the price you pay so by the time you add on the extras it doesn't work out much different. We have 20% VAT but as factored into cost you know the price upfront and not having to deal with State and federal tax as we have the one tax. For the equivalent of Directv here in the UK i pay $45, in the US it was nearly double that and by the time add in state, federal taxes and all the other add ons they put it was close to $90.

But i get compared to Sweden it may be alot cheaper. . I actually was worse off in the US as in the UK I did not pay tax as my role in education was below the tax threshold so I didn't pay tax, and they do not deduct it until you hit the threshhold unlike the US where you pay and then claim it back.

I earned even less in the US in education and below the threshold for tax, however they deducted tax and then I did not get a refund as unlike in the UK the USA you file as a married couple and so because my husband hit the threshold I do not get my tax refunded ! So just in taxation and salary alone I am better off here along with the fact that vacation pay and sick pay is far more generous.

I think everywhere is different even in areas within a country as the area I live now in UK is very different to the area I grew up which was very keep up with everyone and people knocking each other. I have heard good things about Logan but not all areas are this way and snobbery is everywhere and also depends on those you mix with. I had a huge cross section of friends in SLC who I found through various avenues. TBH i live my life the way I wish and couldn't care less what other think. People are free to live their lives as they so wish and mutual respect is what its all about and it seemed to work for us out there and also back here.

I agree sometimes you need a get up and go attitude or to push people forward but some of that comes from within. I saw lots of the US whilst there and travelled around whenever we could yet others rarely leave their neighbourhood its just how you are as a person and if you want to do well you can anywhere. The same as Europe is easy to get around but some rarely take the opportunity to go see things.

But i did find it strange I had neighbours in my neighbourhood there which only had 15 houses and people who lived opposite each other over 15 years did not no one another, not even their names! Where I live back now everyone knows everyone and out of 60+ houses in my road I probably know at least 50+ of the people living there and we talk, socialise etc and its the same throughout the town.

100% agree though that life is too short not to give something a go and regret which is why we gave SLC a go. I enjoyed my time there but long term not for us and my cost of living has gone down at least 50%+ since i moved back and that's with us being on ex pat terms.

Its great these days that people are able to move around so freely and my kids benefited a great deal from their 2 years there and we are glad we gave it a go. Plus we met some fabulous people and will have visitors here for the foreseeable future and we will visit there.


I'm a firm believer in grabbing opportunities and been lucky enough to get a few in various countries but now with kids being older and education being a big factor plus it being expensive and far for family to come we have decided that the UK is more of a better fit even though the US has alot to offer and some outstanding scenery and places to visit . It was not an easy decision but it has worked out to be the right one for us and we lost nothing, only gained by our opportunity there even if long term it was not right and as you say life continues!

Happy moving and hope all goes well, you will have family there so a slightly different scenario, Utah without any family nearby can be tough.
Long post, geez!
But I do appreciate your effort and I see a lot of my thoughts in your post. It does sound like the UK has some more sense in people's lives than they do here, but every country got its pros and cons. I'm pretty sure there isn't a perfect place, it so depends on who you are and what kind of life you want to live. Just like you said.

It's exciting for us, I'm looking forward to try this. I just look at it like, if my friends from school can do decent there, I should do well since they are idiots and pretty much skipped school for four years

Glad you guys made a choice you believe is right for you! You have to live the life you want, no one else can do it for you!

Good luck on that cold island with crap weather I spent a week in Scotland and it was very gloomy but fun! Do love British comedy shows, and might be hard to find in the US...
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Old 02-22-2017, 05:20 PM
 
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OP: are you a US citizen? If not, do you have/will you have appropriate work permits?
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Old 02-22-2017, 05:24 PM
 
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Long post, geez!
But I do appreciate your effort and I see a lot of my thoughts in your post. It does sound like the UK has some more sense in people's lives than they do here, but every country got its pros and cons. I'm pretty sure there isn't a perfect place, it so depends on who you are and what kind of life you want to live. Just like you said.

It's exciting for us, I'm looking forward to try this. I just look at it like, if my friends from school can do decent there, I should do well since they are idiots and pretty much skipped school for four years

Glad you guys made a choice you believe is right for you! You have to live the life you want, no one else can do it for you!

Good luck on that cold island with crap weather I spent a week in Scotland and it was very gloomy but fun! Do love British comedy shows, and might be hard to find in the US...
Lol! Yes sorry. I'm nowhere near Scotland which is cold most of the year even though beautiful, even laugh when British media talk of bad winter weather and then say Scotland as this is just winter every year for that part of the country! Is a nice mild 15c (63f) here at the mo whilst SLC had snow yesterday and the horrible inversions. I will however miss the hot non humid summers and being able to plan a BBQ in June/July without the worry of the weather although be warned the last 2 years in SLC have been cold and wet and didn't get rid of the bracing winter until beginning of June, by sept had to cancel camping as cold wet weather had set in. twice in 2 years it has flooded in May.

BBC america is good & PBS which is free to air, there are also sites where can stream the BBC etc for a minimal fee and worth more than $10 a month for netflix. Trouble is the curse words on US tv get blurred out so things like Graham Norton show which has hilarious guests you miss most of the joke! So BBC sites can watch in all its glory. Some good shows though on NBC, Jimmy Fallon love love love and James Corden and gladthat its now shown in the UK as is new Drama This is US

Spot on nowhere is perfect or we would all move there ! We found our niche and place in the 2 years we were there and embraced the experience and the amazing places to go visit. Proud to say done all 5 NP's in Utah and 2 out of state. Will be back over the years to tick more off the bucket list starting this summer so will be nice to catch up with friends again and get to see some more of the country including the PNW

I agree that you can do well in alot of industries there, sadly education is not one of them as very underfunded and I want to stay in that field. Had a fabulous 2 years and was lucky enough to work there in a school with fabulous people and kids. Miss my workmates as they made me feel at home, a great bunch and loved to go out socially which is not always a given. BTW SLC has Price waterhouse Coopers, Deloittes and Meryl Lynch all big accountants, plus alot of blue chip companies in Lehi

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Old 02-22-2017, 05:46 PM
 
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OP: are you a US citizen? If not, do you have/will you have appropriate work permits?
The OP says his wife is a US citizen and he previously lived and studied there.
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Old 02-23-2017, 03:15 AM
 
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OP: are you a US citizen? If not, do you have/will you have appropriate work permits?
Not a citizen but married to one.
We're working on the application for a Green Card and will have it sent in by next week.
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Old 02-23-2017, 03:21 AM
 
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Lol! Yes sorry. I'm nowhere near Scotland which is cold most of the year even though beautiful, even laugh when British media talk of bad winter weather and then say Scotland as this is just winter every year for that part of the country! Is a nice mild 15c (63f) here at the mo whilst SLC had snow yesterday and the horrible inversions. I will however miss the hot non humid summers and being able to plan a BBQ in June/July without the worry of the weather although be warned the last 2 years in SLC have been cold and wet and didn't get rid of the bracing winter until beginning of June, by sept had to cancel camping as cold wet weather had set in. twice in 2 years it has flooded in May.

BBC america is good & PBS which is free to air, there are also sites where can stream the BBC etc for a minimal fee and worth more than $10 a month for netflix. Trouble is the curse words on US tv get blurred out so things like Graham Norton show which has hilarious guests you miss most of the joke! So BBC sites can watch in all its glory. Some good shows though on NBC, Jimmy Fallon love love love and James Corden and gladthat its now shown in the UK as is new Drama This is US

Spot on nowhere is perfect or we would all move there ! We found our niche and place in the 2 years we were there and embraced the experience and the amazing places to go visit. Proud to say done all 5 NP's in Utah and 2 out of state. Will be back over the years to tick more off the bucket list starting this summer so will be nice to catch up with friends again and get to see some more of the country including the PNW

I agree that you can do well in alot of industries there, sadly education is not one of them as very underfunded and I want to stay in that field. Had a fabulous 2 years and was lucky enough to work there in a school with fabulous people and kids. Miss my workmates as they made me feel at home, a great bunch and loved to go out socially which is not always a given. BTW SLC has Price waterhouse Coopers, Deloittes and Meryl Lynch all big accountants, plus alot of blue chip companies in Lehi
Haha yeah weatherwise it's gonna be all better where ever we go. This is the harshest weather out there... Had -26 Celsius driving to work earlier this week... And a blizzard came in yesterday, about 4-5 inches of snow now... And summers... They say for Sweden it's considered summer when the average temperature is above +10 C for 5-7 days... It barely made that last summer!

I do not get that with America! The non-cursing on TV. Like that's so bad for people... haha. We do have Netflix of course and you can also access lots of shows on youtube, so we're good. Do love QI on BBC though!

Thanks for your comments, great talking to regular people who have been there and done that!
We're excited for this and starting to clean out our house a bit. Trying to figure out what to do with it all and so forth.
Hopefully it'll be alot of fun too!
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Old 02-23-2017, 09:58 AM
 
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Haha yeah weatherwise it's gonna be all better where ever we go. This is the harshest weather out there... Had -26 Celsius driving to work earlier this week... And a blizzard came in yesterday, about 4-5 inches of snow now... And summers... They say for Sweden it's considered summer when the average temperature is above +10 C for 5-7 days... It barely made that last summer!

I do not get that with America! The non-cursing on TV. Like that's so bad for people... haha. We do have Netflix of course and you can also access lots of shows on youtube, so we're good. Do love QI on BBC though!

Thanks for your comments, great talking to regular people who have been there and done that!
We're excited for this and starting to clean out our house a bit. Trying to figure out what to do with it all and so forth.
Hopefully it'll be alot of fun too!

QI is on BBC america you will be pleased to know ! ha ha I know that feeling was brutal when moved to the USA and actually conservative with buying stuff when living there so everything went back into my house back in the Uk without a huge garage!

Cursing thing me neither!

Summers are divine in Utah, Hot 100f + but not humid. Had a great summer in the UK last few years, last summer 10 weeks + of 75f + weather and no rain lol

Good luck and yes its exciting, :-)
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Old 02-24-2017, 01:26 AM
 
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QI is on BBC america you will be pleased to know ! ha ha I know that feeling was brutal when moved to the USA and actually conservative with buying stuff when living there so everything went back into my house back in the Uk without a huge garage!

Cursing thing me neither!

Summers are divine in Utah, Hot 100f + but not humid. Had a great summer in the UK last few years, last summer 10 weeks + of 75f + weather and no rain lol

Good luck and yes its exciting, :-)
Sweet, QI is the ****!

Yeah I remember late August in Logan, very nice, hot and dry.
If we get into the mid-20's, Celsius, it's very humid and unbearable... I'm not a person who likes the heat, but I get bored by the constant dull weather... Can never trust the weather up here...

Thanks for your input, really appreciate it!
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Old 03-08-2017, 06:00 AM
 
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Well, this week we'll send in my Green Card application, excited to see how long it'll take DHS to take care of this
I've heard that one year waiting time is not unusual...

Also got to fly down to the embassy to get the papers for our son, that'll happen in May, since it's boring up here in May and Stockholm is kinda nice during that time.

Exciting time ahead!
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Old 03-09-2017, 11:37 PM
 
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I live in Centerville and it is a great place to live for a young family. It would be a good idea to rent for a year or two until you get a job and decide where you want to settle down. Getting some savings for a down payment or a slightly larger budget will help you in your house hunt. There are not a lot of houses in the SL valley for $200 grand.
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