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Old 06-09-2009, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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This is one of my favorite topics to discuss with newcomers to Salt Lake. I've always lived in Salt Lake, so my perspective might be different from those who are transplants here. I'd like to know what you think of the way Salt Lake City is laid out. Were you totally lost when you first arrived? Did you end up on 27th South when the address you were looking for said 27 South? How long did it take for the system to "click" in your mind?
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Old 06-09-2009, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Mostly in my head
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It clicked immediately as I associated it with an XY grid with the Temple at the (0,0) point, after looking at a map. Someone I worked with had the worst time, as he thought 1300 East should run East-West.

I tell people you have to be retarded to get lost here (no offense intended to people with MR, that's different).
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Old 06-09-2009, 11:44 PM
 
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When I visited this was one of my favorite things about the city. After having lived in Austin, TX for 6 years, I can't tell you how nice it is to know that most streets don't dead end suddenly and inexplicably, and that addresses are actually somehow correlated to their location. I also love that you can get a really good idea of how far away something is immediately based on the address. I haven't tried it yet, but the fact that 7 blocks is a mile will come in really handy for a runner.

Moving from a city with some of the worst city planners in the country to one of the best planned cities is really exciting. A 1 hour commute for 15 miles gets old really quick.
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Old 06-10-2009, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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I know that when I went to NYC, I gave the cabbie an address, (i.e. 645 Madison Ave). He asked me if I knew the nearest cross street. The '645' part of the address meant literally nothing! Here in Salt Lake, it would mean 645 East or 645 West. Of course you'd have to know that or you could get lost but I can't even imagine living somewhere where the addresses really had no rhyme or reason.
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Old 06-10-2009, 08:49 AM
 
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It clicked immediately as I associated it with an XY grid with the Temple at the (0,0) point, after looking at a map.
A good system, but awkward, because the start (0,0 at the Temple) may make it a bit different from other grid systems where the 0,0 is NOT known to you.
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Someone I worked with had the worst time, as he thought 1300 East should run East-West.
If you encounter another person who may have difficulties, then explain that if you add *on* between the the addresses, it gets easier.
e.g. 1925 South *on* 27th West.
Also, have them look for the mountains. The *they look closer* ones, are in the east.

Before I realised that the Temple was the *start*, I had a few problems.

The *problem* starts, when the cities start to *merge* with each other.
Then the numbering gets awkward again.
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:00 AM
 
Location: The other side of the mountain
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I was a little lost at first, but the more I got out to drive in it, the more it made sense. That was only for businesses though. I had the HARDEST time in residential areas. I just couldn't figure out how people knew which one was the house and which one was the road and how to figure out which way to turn in a neighborhood. Took me FOR.EV.ER to finally understand!
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Arkansas
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Love the street numbering here. I can find my way pretty much anywhere without looking on a map (assuming you're given the number, not the name, of the street).
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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A good system, but awkward, because the start (0,0 at the Temple) may make it a bit different from other grid systems where the 0,0 is NOT known to you.
I explain that it's like longitude and latitude. It's like the place on a globe where the equator meets the Greenwich Meridian.

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If you encounter another person who may have difficulties, then explain that if you add *on* between the the addresses, it gets easier.
e.g. 1925 South *on* 27th West.
Excellent idea! I've never thought of that!

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The *problem* starts, when the cities start to *merge* with each other. Then the numbering gets awkward again.
Oh, yeah! If someone gives you an address in Midvale, you're driving along and suddenly the addresses are the "old Midvale" ones. You might as well just give up.
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Old 06-10-2009, 11:03 AM
 
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I explain that it's like longitude and latitude. It's like the place on a globe where the equator meets the Greenwich Meridian.
That's true, but what I meant to convey was that, IF you do not know where to start, you begin to wonder.
When we moved here, I was told to put the Temple in the back of you regardless of where you are, then start navigating.....
Uhmmm ... only works if you *know* where that building is ....
Then go to the Temple, stand in front of it, and then start navigating ....

What never made sense to me was the fact that everybody says e.g. It is on 3rd south.
What is really going on is that 3rd south, is actually 300 south.
Uhmmm, OK, I am getting used to that ...

Then there is the strange phenomenon of one street changing numbers somewhere ...
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Old 06-10-2009, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Castle Rock, Co
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it makes sense to me, some people are retarded though
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