KENS 5 Story: Man uses Black Box to fight speeding tickets

[SabresFanInSA]

Originally Posted by majormadmax

However, that still doesn't stop them from blaming someone else, because that is how our society works. An idiot doesn't put gas in their vehicle, stalls out at a dangerous intersection and causing a very serious traffic situation, endangering the lives of numerous other drivers, and it's the police who at fault for trying to alleviate the problem.

Let's be fair because someone reading your comment isnt getting the entire story. That wasnt about the police "trying to alleviate a problem". It was about the method of alleviation.

I can only speak for myself. I dont think every cop is out to get me, but I do think there are a lot (1% of an entire force is still a lot of officers) out there with questionable work ethics and some of that group who have the attitude they do simply because they wear a badge. Some I have known personally.

[majormadmax]

Originally Posted by SabresFanInSA

Let's be fair because someone reading your comment isnt getting the entire story. That wasnt about the police "trying to alleviate a problem". It was about the method of alleviation.

I can only speak for myself. I dont think every cop is out to get me, but I do think there are a lot (1% of an entire force is still a lot of officers) out there with questionable work ethics and some of that group who have the attitude they do simply because they wear a badge. Some I have known personally.

I don't think you're getting my point, that there's been numerous threads on this forum where people are blaming the police for doing the job we depend on them to do.

And I disagree with your belief that there are "a lot" with questionable work ethics that go as far as the original intent of this thread claims. As a matter of fact, it was titled something about "lying cops" and the truth be told, the vast majority of the time it is the citizens who are caught who are the ones not telling the truth ("I wasn't speeding" and "I'm pregnant" come to mind).

However, I will admit not all police officers are innocent, and some do break the law themselves. Just this week a Beaumont police officer is on trail here in SA for the use of excessive force during a traffic stop in August of 2007:

Excessive force? Trial in S.A. this week for officer shown in video striking suspect | kens5.com | San Antonio News, Weather, Sports, Traffic, Entertainment, Video and Photos

The same with the three Dallas police officers that are being charged with felonies in the beating of a fleeing motorcyclist last week.

I guess that nullifies the claims that police officers are always getting away with this kind of stuff now, doesn't it?

But I do think the local police do need to step up in terms of traffic enforcement. Too many people drive like idiots in this town, causing accidents and injuring innocents. I'm sure if that were to happen we'd have more accusations of "speed traps" (which don't exist, by the way) or other tactics that are merely the local law enforcement agencies doing the job our tax money pays (and expects) them to do!

[Merovee]

Most people drive fine. That is more of a glass half empty or half full type perspective. The people who notice most of these bad drivers are more likely on the critical side of the spectrum and see idiots everywhere and perhaps spend an inordinate amount of time discussing them. Perhaps they are just people that expect the whole road to accommodate them? I do not believe we need more traffic enforcement just better designed thoroughfares and less confusing signage for starters.

Most citizens just expect for public servants to do their jobs ethically, maintain accountability, and not to be excessive complainers regarding the 'job stress' or an unappreciative public when it is their less than stellar performance being covered in the media or being discussed in general. If the job is that tough then perhaps it is time for a stress check, maybe psychological help, perhaps a career change? We want people who are up to the challenge and that means being able to accept accountability especially when a mistake happens which will usually affects others.

[RodLu]

Originally Posted by Soviet

Again, everyone, I am not advocating breaking any laws or doing anything of the sort. I am not anti-law enforcement. I am anti-inappropriate law enforcement, or having law enforcement accuse me of something I did not do.

I am advocating having appropriate laws on the books. Just because a law is a law does NOT make it right. Women and African-Americans were one day not allowed to vote. It was the LAW. Does that make it right?

The same goes for CERTAIN speed limits.

There you go; perfectly summed-up in a nutshell. I totally agree as well with you 100%, Soviet, aye.....




Apparently somewhere else once {or twice, or thrice, etc.} upon a time on this planet other Concerned Aware People also felt the same way regarding Unethical Police Misconduct {because cops indeed are also Imperfect Fallible Mortal Humans too, they are *not* Omnipotently Perfect All-Knowing Gods}, so certain organized civilian actions {and even Internal Affairs, assuming one chooses to fully or somewhat trust THEIR investigations or not, of course} to watchdog these unlawful activities was started, as many have seen.......

[svg210]

Look bottom line if you dont agree with an officers decision you can always challenge the ticket. I dont know why some people are so *******s wondering how the blue hell they got pulled over when they were caught speeding 10-15 mph over the limit? Common sense will tell that 40-45 the the usual speed limit in a multi-lane road. while a lower speed of 15-30 are usually the neighborhoods limits. you dont need to look like a jackass with a 250 dollar "black box" in front of the judge saying that you were speeding but by not that much.