03-18-2011, 11:55 AM
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I'm a firm beliver that people should speak any way they choose, use any colloquialism they prefer and invent new words if that is what they want.
I also believe that people should speak any way they choose, etc., however, I take extra care to make them feel comfortable in doing so. It would be presumptuous and condescending to correct someone's language, but, no more than making that person feel inferior with my "proper" speaking of a language. Fortunately, I'm as well-versed in "proper" Spanish as I am in Tex-Mex and
choloismo !*lol*
03-18-2011, 11:56 AM
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I will not correct how someone speaks Spanish, since I find that to be presumptious and condescending but I will speak "proper" Spanish and never Spanglish. This has served me very well at a social and professional level.
99.9% of the time, I wouldn't correct people.
But what do you think about this one...
Everyday I listen to 92.9 in the morning, the "Raul Brindis y Pepito" show from Houston. (They are mexican)
Every single time they were going to say that a person is old, like a senior citizen,
they said "El esta grande" (He's big)
03-18-2011, 12:16 PM
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99.9% of the time, I wouldn't correct people.
But what do you think about this one...
Everyday I listen to 92.9 in the morning, the "Raul Brindis y Pepito" show from Houston. (They are mexican)
Every single time they were going to say that a person is old, like a senior citizen,
they said "El esta grande" (He's big)
We used to call my grandpa "Papa Grande," and he wasn't a big man at all. I'm not fluent by any means, but I think the "grande" was out of respect. I'm going to ask. I never questioned it, just went with it. Now I'm curious.
03-18-2011, 01:11 PM
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99.9% of the time, I wouldn't correct people.
But what do you think about this one...
Everyday I listen to 92.9 in the morning, the "Raul Brindis y Pepito" show from Houston. (They are mexican)
Every single time they were going to say that a person is old, like a senior citizen,
they said "El esta grande" (He's big)
ugh.
It's wrong at two levels. First it should be, "el es mayor de edad" and even if they wanted to use grande as a colloquial substitution it should be "el es grande"...unless the whole phrase is used as a colloquialism
Even then I would not correct them. But I would cringe
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03-18-2011, 01:13 PM
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We used to call my grandpa "Papa Grande," and he wasn't a big man at all. I'm not fluent by any means, but I think the "grande" was out of respect. I'm going to ask. I never questioned it, just went with it. Now I'm curious.
I've heard this used in other places, specially around the Caribbean. Mama or papa grande. So I don't think of it as Spanglish. It's definitely an idiomatic expression born out of respect. I find it endearing
03-18-2011, 01:38 PM
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That is definitely the problem. Plus some people still think of the south from the Jim Crow era.
I can understand why people ask this anywhere, not just the South.
My mother is from Mexico and is of Mestizo (Indian and mostly Spanish) and Slavic descent--she looks Russian. My father is American of English and German descent. I look European and have a very WASP-y last name but consider myself latin socio-culturally. I was born in the US, grew-up in Mexico, moved to the East Coast for college and have traveled extensively. I'm a dual national and hold both passports. People don't automatically assume I'm of Mexican descent therefore I have heard people say some very disparaging remarks about us. I'm also gay but people tend not to pick-up on it. I have heard them say some very disaparging remarks about gays. So why would I want to live in a neighborhood where people don't like Mexicans or are uncomfortable if I hug my boyfriend when going to work...well, in theory--I'm single
In this day and age I have seen heterosexual interracial couples walking down the street and someone snicker behind their back. This would not happen in certain neighborhoods but certainly in others.
As a corollary I would not want to live in other countries where they are xenophobic against Americans. I have lived for the most part in Washington DC since college. Where I chose to live my ethnicities, nationalities and sexual orientation were not an issue. Can you really not think of areas in SA where regardless of how courteous and considerate I would be my socio-ethnic and sexual orientation would not be viewed pejoratively?
I will be moving to SA in two weeks and everything that I've read about SA (specially in this forum) makes me think that it's a tolerant city where if I respect my neighbors they will respect me. During my visits I have found the people polite, well-mannered and gracious. I hope that this will translate into a place where I will feel comfortable and not be denigrated because of who I am.
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03-18-2011, 03:14 PM
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I hope that this will translate into a place where I will feel comfortable and not be denigrated because of who I am.
I hate people that say that (I just had to throw that in there
)
03-19-2011, 11:05 AM
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What makes me wonder, is why Radio station's don't put on other music rather then top 40 BS. Top 40 is ehh, but when you have 2-4 other stations playing it, it makes me wonder... There are so much good music out in the world...
03-19-2011, 01:58 PM
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What makes me wonder, is why Radio station's don't put on other music rather then top 40 BS. Top 40 is ehh, but when you have 2-4 other stations playing it, it makes me wonder... There are so much good music out in the world...
From listening to "La Kalle"
it seems to me as if the owner of those radio stations has a deal with one or several record labels. Because they always play the same people and only play their latest song.
There's some amazing songs from the last 5-10 years that get almost zero airtime.
03-19-2011, 04:01 PM
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From listening to "La Kalle"
I hear you on that. Personally, I love House Music/Electronic Dance Music, and have been an avid listener to that genre of music for over 10 years (since I was 12 yrs old.) There is so much up lifting songs out there that can make you feel so happy just by the sounds they produce, and then they add vocals which makes songs that much more able to relate to. But all of those great songs get no air time. I hate it... It's time Sa has been more diverse to different music then just top 40 stuff
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Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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