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Old 07-06-2012, 03:55 PM
 
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Was just doing some geology research on the San Antonio area and was surprised on how many caves lie in the San Antonio area. There was one cave mentioned "Robber Baron" cave that lies near 410 & Nacodoches road that has grafitti in it dating back to the 1800's...Guessing a lot of these caves are protected and covered some how to keep people out. Very interesting indeed! Also interesting how the Edward's Plateau begins where San Antonio College is built. You can see the rise in elevation and the rock formation off Dewey streets. The Balcones fault line runs through SA which caused these formations.
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Old 07-06-2012, 04:53 PM
 
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There are a couple in Stone Oak Park. If you go and check out the hiking map (or even the pdf map they have online) you can see where they are on the trails.
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:12 PM
 
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Was just doing some geology research on the San Antonio area and was surprised on how many caves lie in the San Antonio area. There was one cave mentioned "Robber Baron" cave that lies near 410 & Nacodoches road that has grafitti in it dating back to the 1800's...Guessing a lot of these caves are protected and covered some how to keep people out. Very interesting indeed! Also interesting how the Edward's Plateau begins where San Antonio College is built. You can see the rise in elevation and the rock formation off Dewey streets. The Balcones fault line runs through SA which caused these formations.
The Robber Baron's Cave is at the end of Cave Lane off Nacogdoches I believe. It's been discussed in "Gone but not Forgotten" thread. Somewhere around Dewey and San Pedro Park is a cave I've read of with a mysterious story. I forget where though.
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:04 AM
 
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Caves at San Pedro Park by the springs. There is a legend of buried treasure there. Also Santa Anna camped out at the park (it wasn't a park then) before the Battle of the Alamo. Although the park is the second oldest park in the United States.
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Old 07-07-2012, 04:33 PM
 
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Default 2nd oldest park?

Really? San Pedro, In the entire country? I did not know that mijo. Which is the oldest then?
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Caves at San Pedro Park by the springs. There is a legend of buried treasure there. Also Santa Anna camped out at the park (it wasn't a park then) before the Battle of the Alamo. Although the park is the second oldest park in the United States.
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Old 07-07-2012, 05:02 PM
 
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Really? San Pedro, In the entire country? I did not know that mijo. Which is the oldest then?
Boston Common, I think.
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:59 AM
 
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Caves at San Pedro Park by the springs. There is a legend of buried treasure there. Also Santa Anna camped out at the park (it wasn't a park then) before the Battle of the Alamo. Although the park is the second oldest park in the United States.

San Pedro Park was established in 1729, making it the 2nd oldest park in the United States behind Boston Common. Santa Anna never camped here, especially before 1729. He camped along the Medina river before marching into San Antonio. There is a legend of buried gold coins brought over by a Canary Islander that he supposedly buried in one of the caves that used to be in the northeast corner of the park. The caves have since been covered up to keep people out. Story goes, back when they first discovered these caves, they found bones that belonged to a race of "giant" people....very tall cavemen if you will. The bones have since been lost to history.
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:36 AM
 
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1729 is when the area around the San Pedro Springs were by royal decree made an ejido. That is public land for communal agricultural use, not a park. There were other ejidos in the area as well. A town common originally had the same purpose in England and its colonies and were not parks either. Boston Common was overgrazed and no longer had agricultural use which was one of the reasons it was turned into a park.

1852 is when the City of San Antonio made the area around the springs an official park. San Pedro Springs Reserve was the official name chosen.

That Santa Anna camped at the park before the Battle of the Alamo might be just a legend.

A postcard states he did: San Pedro Springs

As does Boyce House in City of Flaming Adventure: City of flaming adventure: the chronicle of San Antonio - Boyce House - Google Books

There is also legend of secret tunnels going from the Springs to the Alamo which Santa Anna used to sneak his men in the Alamo: Publications of the Texas Folk-lore Society - Google Books

It would make sense that he did, they are the head waters of the city water supply then, who would not control that before a siege? Maybe he sent a few men and didn't camp there. It is just a legend now I suppose.

Gypsies did camp there on October 25th, 1873: San Antonio de Bexar: a guide and history - Google Books

It was also, I believe, a prisoner of war camp during the Civil War.

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Old 07-10-2012, 07:32 AM
 
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excellent post Merovee.
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:01 AM
 
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This cave Robber Barron has an interesting past...It was a tourist site from 1926-1933. It is believed to be the longest cave in Bexar county also. There is a website Robber Baron Cave Introduction | Texas Cave Management Association | TCMA | Conservation | Education | Study

Very interesting indeed!
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