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Old 04-07-2013, 12:36 PM
 
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Detroit doesn't have any other cities in the state of Michigan to compete with for corporate sponsorship with regard to other MLB teams. Dallas and Houston both have local teams.
Whirlpool is more in Chicago's sphere than Detroit's. You were massaging the #s, and got busted by multiple posters.
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:50 PM
 
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Whirlpool is more in Chicago's sphere than Detroit's. You were massaging the #s, and got busted by multiple posters.
I got busted? By multiple posters? All both of you? For posting information that he asked for? Ok. I sure hope this doesn't affect my scholarship.

The proximity of the companies to a metro, in states MUCH smaller than Texas geographically is less significant than it is in a state the size of Texas, with multiple teams to compete with. If you think it would have been more informative to list Fortune 500 companies in Houston and Dallas as potential corporate sponsors for a team in San Antonio, then we will just have to agree to disagree.

Using your logic, Wichita Falls is much closer to OKC than it is to Austin. Do you think there are many companies in Wichita Falls bold enough to support the Sooners over the Longhorns in the Red River Rivalry? Think there are many companies in southern Illinois supporting St. Louis teams over teams in Illinois? My point being that sometimes state lines and loyalties mean more than geographic proximity.

I understand and respect that you have a different opinion.
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:16 PM
 
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I got busted? By multiple posters? All both of you? For posting information that he asked for?
You provided misinformation that was skewed to your side, and now you are hopelessly rationalizing your intentional bias. Pathetic. You got busted, twice, deal with it.

I have no horse in this race, just want to see the truth.

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I understand and respect that you have a different opinion.
I don't respect dishonesty or cheating.
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:20 PM
 
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] Think there are many companies in southern Illinois supporting St. Louis teams over teams in Illinois? My point being that sometimes state lines and loyalties mean more than geographic proximity.
Metro St. Louis area business supports St. Louis sports teams over Chicago teams just as Vancouver, WA area folks are Blazers fans, not Supersonics fans.
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:23 PM
 
Location: San Antonio TX
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Watching the A's/Astros game as I type this. Can't help but notice the VERY prominent H-E-B signage. Aren't they a San Antonio corporation? I can envision USAA Park, with a heavy dose of H-E-B, Wells Fargo, Valero, etc.

Also...if the Air Force and Army can sponsor race cars, why not baseball?

If O.co can afford naming rights, I'm sure there a number of San Antonio companies that can as well.
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:47 PM
 
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You provided misinformation that was skewed to your side, and now you are hopelessly rationalizing your intentional bias. Pathetic. You got busted, twice, deal with it.
Listen, I am not from Michigan, Wisconsin or Florida. I did a search for Fortune 500 companies in Metro Detroit, Metro Milwaukee, Metro Tampa and Metro San Antonio and those are the results I got.

No, I didn't provide misinformation and I am hardly 'hopelessly rationalizing'. I provided information that doesn't fit the format that you want it in. You want to whine about misinformation, Whirlpool headquarters is less than 3 hours from downtown Detroit. Houston is about the same distance from San Antonio. Downtown DFW is over 4 hours away from downtown San Antonio. Would you feel better if I went back and did a search of all Fortune 500 companies within 3 hours of downtown San Antonio? Would that be more relevant to you?

Again, there is only one MLB team in Michigan. There are 2 in Texas, this thread is proposing a third.

I also did a search for Metro Populations of all the cities listed above. Again, someone called me on my numbers regarding the populations of San Antonio and Tampa. If you just want to see the truth, why didn't you point out that Tampa's actual population is actually around 350,000 people but the metro is estimated to be over 4 million, not the 2.2 million that someone else claimed? San Antonio's actual population is around 1.5 million while the metro is around 2.2 million?

Could it be because you want to cherry pick your battles?

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I have no horse in this race, just want to see the truth.
No you don't. You want to come in and split hairs and then you want to self righteously argue about what you consider to be relevant as though your OPINION is the only one that matters. That's cool, you can troll all you want. You aren't going to cause me to lose an ounce of sleep.

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I don't respect dishonesty or cheating.
The reality is, you are far more likely to find truth in what I posted than you are to ever seeing a Major League Baseball team residing in San Antonio. Respect that?
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:51 PM
 
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Metro St. Louis area business supports St. Louis sports teams over Chicago teams just as Vancouver, WA area folks are Blazers fans, not Supersonics fans.
When you speak in absolutes you realize you are wrong more often than you are right don't you? I would respect the statements you made more if you said MOST metro St. Louis businesses or MOST Vancouver, WA fans.

Since you skewed your information to support your point, I no longer respect your opinions. You are not honest and you cheat. I have no dog in that race, just pointing out facts.
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Old 04-07-2013, 02:04 PM
 
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Listen, I am not from Michigan, Wisconsin or Florida. I did a search for Fortune 500 companies in Metro Detroit, Metro Milwaukee, Metro Tampa and Metro San Antonio and those are the results I got.

No, I didn't provide misinformation and I am hardly 'hopelessly rationalizing'. I provided information that doesn't fit the format that you want it in.

You did not apply the same standards to San Antonio as you did other markets. You puffed up other area's #s. Either don't puff up their numbers, or apply the same standards with San Antonio.

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I also did a search for Metro Populations of all the cities listed above. Again, someone called me on my numbers regarding the populations of San Antonio and Tampa. If you just want to see the truth, why didn't you point out that Tampa's actual population is actually around 350,000 people but the metro is estimated to be over 4 million, not the 2.2 million that someone else claimed?
U.S. Census, using the most recent population estimates and 2013 CMSA/MSA defintions: 21. Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL Metropolitan Statistical Area: 2,824,724

Over 4,000,000 people?
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Old 04-07-2013, 02:08 PM
 
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U.S. Census, using the most recent population estimates and 2013 CMSA/MSA defintions: 21. Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL Metropolitan Statistical Area: 2,824,724

Over 4,000,000 people?
The combined Greater Tampa Bay region experienced a combined growth rate of 14.8 percent, growing from 3.4 million to 3.9 million and hitting the 4 million mark on April 1, 2007 in the continuous Tampa Bay urban area.[5] A 2012 estimate of the Tampa Bay Area shows a population of about 4,310,524 people and a 2017 projection of about 4,536,854.
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Old 04-07-2013, 02:20 PM
 
Location: San Antonio TX
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Are Rangers and Astros games all televised in the San Antonio market, or just one, or neither?
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