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Old 05-03-2013, 10:16 PM
 
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I'm quite upset by CPS & City Hall on this issue. They spent massive amounts of money for a corporate/foriegn solar plant. Yet, at the same time are going to screw residents and local installers out of a standard solar plan (ie. net metering). I'm quite happy some body is fighting for us.

It would be one thing if CPS did not subsidize any energy plans at all, but to selectively screw residents is pretty bad.

mysa solar energy cuts

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CPS has proposed replacing “net metering” with “SunCredit,” an arrangement where the utility will credit residential and commercial solar customers a set amount for every kilowatt of electricity produced by their solar arrays. However, a kilowatt of solar energy under this new system would be worth a little more than half of what it was worth under its old system.
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Western Bexar County
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Just had to post this link for people that have not read it.


I'm quite upset by CPS & City Hall on this issue. They spent massive amounts of money for a corporate/foriegn solar plant. Yet, at the same time are going to screw residents and local installers out of a standard solar plan (ie. net metering). I'm quite happy some body is fighting for us.

It would be one thing if CPS did not subsidize any energy plans at all, but to selectively screw residents is pretty bad.

mysa solar energy cuts
CPS has to make some extra money somewhere to pay those high bonuses the execs are getting!
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:34 AM
 
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just what is "NET METERING" and what where are selective residents being screwed and was there not some kind of regulations put on place for this type of misuse and mismanagement for this type of city governing agencies---- there have been in the news several incidents of people getting astronomical utilities bills for their non existing use of a.k.a. utilities is there a connection here?
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:14 AM
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was there not some kind of regulations put on place for this type of misuse and mismanagement for this type of city governing agencies----
Solar home power is a regulatory wild west. Never before have there been significant numbers of homeowners putting electricity back into the grid and needing to be compensated for that. The regulatory framework for that process is being made up as solar goes along. CPS realized (maybe all along) that the initial model was popular, but not sustainable on a large scale. They're trying to unring that bell and getting pushback from solar enthusiasts.

You make the incentives big enough and people will do something they might not otherwise want to do. You try to take them away after they do it and they squawk. Doesn't surprise me.
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:21 PM
 
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just what is "NET METERING" and what where are selective residents being screwed and was there not some kind of regulations put on place for this type of misuse and mismanagement for this type of city governing agencies---- there have been in the news several incidents of people getting astronomical utilities bills for their non existing use of a.k.a. utilities is there a connection here?
This entry from wikipedia describes it well.

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Most electricity meters accurately record in both directions, allowing a no-cost method of effectively banking excess electricity production for future credit.
I don't consider CPS/City Hall policy out of regulation, but just not in the best interest of city residents.

CPS has spent liberal amounts of money on nuclear and solar developments. Much of that money has left our economy and will never return. They have justified the unnecessary expenditures in the name of carbon emission reduction. Maybe we've provided CPS with the wrong incentive structures.

Coincidentally, CPS is not supporting a very economical method of obtaining peak energy with low carbon emissions. Aka Residential solar. A mysa article states that CPS is concerned that residents will have lower energy bills..

It is obvious that residential solar panels will hurt CPS's revenue... Then again last time I checked, CPS wasn't a privately owned for-profit business. They are supposed to serve the citizens of San Antonio.
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Old 05-04-2013, 04:03 PM
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It is obvious that residential solar panels will hurt CPS's revenue... Then again last time I checked, CPS wasn't a privately owned for-profit business. They are supposed to serve the citizens of San Antonio.
Don't forget that CPS revenue helps offset low city property taxes. I imagine the council reacted with some alarm when CPS privately provided them with projections on how big a dent in that revenue that a significant number of their ratepayers not paying anymore could make.
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Old 05-04-2013, 10:53 PM
 
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Don't forget that CPS revenue helps offset low city property taxes. I imagine the council reacted with some alarm when CPS privately provided them with projections on how big a dent in that revenue that a significant number of their ratepayers not paying anymore could make.
absolutely. imagine what people would start to do under the old solar plan if cps kept raising rates..
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:48 AM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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There were other articles about it:
Browne's Blog: The CPS SunCredit Plan | News - Home
San Antonio area solar companies wary of new CPS SunCredit program | News - Home
lots of people are angry about this decision.
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Old 05-05-2013, 06:14 PM
 
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Shameful. CPS is abusing the citizens already. They are a bunch of overpaid, rate hikeing, abusers of public trust. Their abuse of taxpayer money for lavish parties and million dollar bonuses is a slap in the face.

Now they are moving to make solar economically non viable by effectively increasing the time it will take for you to even break even on a solar installation.

So instead of encouraging a taxpayer to assist with electricity generation, thus reducing the need for rolling blackouts during the heat of the summmer days, CPS wants to discourage that under the guise of 'fairness' claiming solar users are not paying for instrastructure costs. Well guess what, every solar customer and every non-solar customer ALREADY pay the same price for that. It's the base monthly charge for having a hookup. Having a solar array does not lower that amount one penny.

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Old 05-06-2013, 06:30 AM
 
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I think the best thing folks can do here is get their city council member on it.
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