San Antonio named #2 drunkest city in the nation

[Torpedos]

Drunk driving is no accident. If a perso. Runs someone over, it should be considered premeditated.

[L210]

Originally Posted by majormadmax

Bull. San Antonio has a DWI problem because the courts here are too lenient on offenders, especially repeat offenders. Stiffer penalties would go a long way to reducing the number of DWI incidents we have in this town.

There is truth to this, but it has a lot to do with Texas laws. The federal government has deemed Texas and several other states as needing to toughen their DWI laws.

Bexar County statistics also show that alcohol-related driving fatalities have tripled in 2013. "Quite honestly, per capita, we are the most dangerous city in Texas,” said Mothers Against Drunk Driving South Texas Director Jennifer Northway, in regards to drinking and driving injuries.

New statistics show drunken driving fatalities increase in Texas | News - Home

Texas does have the most drunk driving fatalities. Yes, we are a very populace state, but we still have a lot less people than California. It should be very concerning that California has millions of more people, but less drunk driving fatalities. California is also a car-dependent state.

[majormadmax]

Originally Posted by allaboutsa

I call bull on your assessment. Our court system is no more lenient than the other major cities in Texas. "The Top 20 cities for Drunken Driving Offenders published in Dec 2011 with the more legitimate source from the auto insurance data , NOT Men's Health magazine ,shows that San Antonio actually clearly showed a decrease in DUI's and was ranked #16, with Austin ranked higher at # 9. In fact San Diego was ranked # 1 and Los Angeles was ranked #2. Its funny how Los Angeles dropped to # 41 in the Men's Health article and San Diego dropped to #89 after being consistently ranked as #1 city with the most drunken drivers by the auto insurance industry. Furthermore Dallas was considered by Men's Health to be one of the top 15 safest to drive in the U.S. but according to the auto insurance data it is # 1 for the MOST DUI DEATHS! Once again the men's Health article is inaccurate despite the assumption by others that San Antonio has a uniquely lenient policy for drunk drivers compared to other Texas cities.

Call bull all you want, it's true as L210 attests...

Originally Posted by L210

There is truth to this, but it has a lot to do with Texas laws. The federal government has deemed Texas and several other states as needing to toughen their DWI laws.

New statistics show drunken driving fatalities increase in Texas | News - Home

Texas does have the most drunk driving fatalities. Yes, we are a very populace state, but we still have a lot less people than California. It should be very concerning that California has millions of more people, but less drunk driving fatalities. California is also a car-dependent state.

The NHTSA reported that Bexar County saw 4.5 fatalities per 100,000 population. That's compared to 3.99 fatalities per 100,000 population in Harris County (Houston). Dallas County is at 2.81, per the NHTSA, so I don't know where you're getting your facts from but I think the Federal government is a more reliable, unbiased and accurate source.

[allaboutsa]

Originally Posted by majormadmax

Call bull all you want, it's true as L210 attests...



The NHTSA reported that Bexar County saw 4.5 fatalities per 100,000 population. That's compared to 3.99 fatalities per 100,000 population in Harris County (Houston). Dallas County is at 2.81, per the NHTSA, so I don't know where you're getting your facts from but I think the Federal government is a more reliable, unbiased and accurate source.

The data from the NHTSA, according to their FARS, distinguishes fatalities from auto accidents in general from auto accidents due to intoxication. From their most recent data accumulated over a decade, looking only at the 25 largest cities in the U.S., it shows that while San Antonio is the seventh largest city it is ranked 9th in fatal traffic crashes per 1,000 people with Dallas ranked 4th and Houston ranked 6th. In terms of fatal traffic crashes involving intoxication per 1,00 people,their data shows that San Antonio is ranked 9th, behind Houston (ranked 3rd), Dallas (ranked 5th) and Austin (ranked 7th). In addition , the rate of fatal crashes involving intoxication shows that San Antonio is even lower and is ranked 19th out of the 25 largest cities in the U.S. By the way, New York is consistently ranked at or near the bottom and it has been attributed to their extensive subway system. Look for yourself.

[Pancho-Villa]

Obviously, one of you is ill informed..question is, which one of you?

[L210]

Originally Posted by Pancho-Villa

Obviously, one of you is ill informed..question is, which one of you?

It would help if people posted links. I did come across Majormadmax's data.

2011 Alcohol-Impaired Driving Fatalities in Bexar County (BAC .08+)
Harris County - 167 (3.99 fatalities per 100,000 population)
Bexar County - 79 (4.5)
Dallas County - 68 (2.81)
Tarrant County - 64 (3.46)
El Paso County - 45 (5.48)

Although Houston's Harris County had more than double the number of fatalities that Bexar County had in 2011, it also had more than double the population. The NHTSA reported that Bexar County saw 4.5 fatalities per 100,000 population. That's compared to 3.99 fatalities per 100,000 population in Harris County.

It's families losing the most as Texas leads nation in DWI deaths | khou.com Houston

I don't know how many drunk driving fatalities we had last year, but it's disturbing that the number tripled this year.

California has about 12 million more people.

Alcohol-impaired driving fatalities for 2011 (BAC=.08+) *most current statistics available

Texas: 1,213
California: 774
Florida: 716
Pennsylvania: 407
North Carolina: 365

[L210]

Originally Posted by allaboutsa

The data from the NHTSA, according to their FARS, distinguishes fatalities from auto accidents in general from auto accidents due to intoxication. From their most recent data accumulated over a decade,

I think people are focusing more on the trend of what's been happening recently.

In terms of fatal traffic crashes involving intoxication per 1,00 people,their data shows that San Antonio is ranked 9th, behind Houston (ranked 3rd), Dallas (ranked 5th) and Austin (ranked 7th). In addition , the rate of fatal crashes involving intoxication shows that San Antonio is even lower and is ranked 19th out of the 25 largest cities in the U.S. By the way, New York is consistently ranked at or near the bottom and it has been attributed to their extensive subway system. Look for yourself.

Can you be clearer because the bolded statements are kind of contradicting each other?

[bspray]

Originally Posted by majormadmax

Bull. San Antonio has a DWI problem because the courts here are too lenient on offenders, especially repeat offenders. Stiffer penalties would go a long way to reducing the number of DWI incidents we have in this town.

I am not saying that I oppose stiffer penalties for drunk drivers, I actually support them but if this logic were accurate, states with the death penalty would have fewer murders than states without it. It's actually the opposite of that. States without the death penalty actually have a lower murder rate. For the record, I support the death penalty too even though it's not an effective deterrent.

[Lucywe]

If you look at the link to this article on Men's health, it is dated in 1969. Just curious if this is a typo?

[buffy888]

Originally Posted by allaboutsa

There are going to be more DUI in cities that are deficient in public transportation. Of course San Antonio doesn't have an elaborate rail or subway system to make it easier to get home so , of course, the DUI's will be greater.

We have access to plenty of cabs. The problem is not a dearth of public transportation but rather one of personal responsibility.