San Antonio Trolley / Streetcars (Houston, Dallas: buses, rail, cars)

[Busfan]

The traffic in San Antonio is already bad like Los Angeles. Our city need Trollies / Streetcars to help reduce number of cars off the road as possible. The opponents do not understand that our town traffic is like Los Angeles today. Many successful cities have rail transportation - San Diego / Los Angeles, Sacramento, Salt Lake City, Denver, Dallas, Houston, Portland and Seattle. San Antonio was the 1st major cities have shut down its streetcars back in 1933. Trollies / Streetcars do attract riders and tourists otherwise our community will suffer with no rail transportation.

[ashbeeigh]

//www.city-data.com/forum/san-a...n-trolley.html

[01Snake]

Comparing SA's traffic to that of Los Angles is hilarious at best.

[sapphire]

Dallas and Houston, too. Absolutely no comparison.

[TexasRedneck]

Beyond that.....how many of you actually go around in those cities? I drive to the Houston Medical Center routinely for business. The streetcars/trollies/whatever ya call 'em take up a lane in each direction that allows NO vehicular traffic in them. While it looks good, the numbers riding don't compare to the loss of traffic lanes. And you wouldn't believe the number of time they're involved in accidents. NOT the fault of the trollies - but they're quiet, and folks just don't realize they're coming.
Now.....come to SA - with MUCH less traffic density - and the loss of traffic lanes is going to be even MORE pronounced - and the economic drain even MORE noticeable. While it looks good on paper, those shoving it down the taxpayers throats are going to be LONG gone by the time it's too late.

[Torpedos]

It is always about money. Look at VIA, those buses are empty most of the time. I wonder if via makes money off their service.

[TXEX06]

Originally Posted by Torpedos

It is always about money. Look at VIA, those buses are empty most of the time. I wonder if via makes money off their service.

The buses downtown are far from empty. Don't know about the buses out in the burbs though.

[Bo]

Originally Posted by Torpedos

It is always about money. Look at VIA, those buses are empty most of the time. I wonder if via makes money off their service.

No mass transit service anywhere makes money. But a key part of the value of mass transit is in reducing vehicle traffic and reducing the need to expand/build roads.

[TexasRedneck]

And the buses do that, since they are a temporary blockage in a lane. But the trolley will require permanent loss of a minimum of one lane - and if they do it like Houston, TWO lanes.....

[IntentionallyBlank]

Originally Posted by TexasRedneck

And the buses do that, since they are a temporary blockage in a lane. But the trolley will require permanent loss of a minimum of one lane - and if they do it like Houston, TWO lanes.....

As I understand it, the streetcar lanes will be mixed traffic, so no loss of lane.