12-15-2007, 04:01 PM
Location: Oz
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rd2007
Now go get a radar detector.. All four of our cars have them and they save you a LOT. They're not perfect, but about 99% of the cops around here drive with their radar on 24/7, so you "see" them from at least a mile away..
Why not just mind the rules of the road, maybe?
12-15-2007, 11:42 PM
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Why not just mind the rules of the road, maybe?
That's kind of what I was going to say. Does it really present a good message to teenage drivers, who have a dangerous sense of bravado to begin with, to tell them, hey, speeding is perfectly acceptable so long as you don't get caught?
12-16-2007, 06:29 AM
Location: Wiesbaden, Germany
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Ha ha, I figured I'd take some heat for the radar detector comment.. they are 100% legal in Texas though, except on bases.
12-16-2007, 08:06 AM
Location: San Antonio
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All of the responses from the other posters are correct. You are ENTITLED to be allowed defensive driving once a year for most moving violations. You did not relate what the offense was or if it was even a moving violation / possibly a "no insurance" ticket, which is really a big fine. For an insurance ticket there is no deferred adjudication or defensive driving, and it is a suspended license for a subsequent conviction. Regardless of the violation, I recommend you address it immediately because ignoring it will result in additional fees such as a state levy, arrest warrant fee, and possible denied renewal of your license. The court clerks are usually very helpful to those who approach like a gentleman (lady) and can help over the phone. The cheapest quick fix is to pay the fine only. The cheapest and most responsible way in the long run is to take defensive driving. You will still pay the fine but a conviction will not appear on your record, thus keeping your insurance rates at their lowest for your age. Good luck. I hope it works out.
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Reason: I left out important info.
12-16-2007, 09:40 AM
Location: San Antonio
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The OP seems to be surprized that they got a ticket that they cannot afford. Fines are not designed to be affordable. That would defeat the purpose. Fines are supposed to hurt you where it hurts the most. In your wallet. If you don't want to spend all of your money on traffic fines then start driving like you are supposed to. I don't think that some DD course is going to teach you that. You are supposed to know how to drive before they issue you a licence. The way I see some people driving on the freeways today makes me think they should be fined, have their car impounded and be forced to ride the bus for about 6 months. To me it doesn't seem equitable that someone can have a few beers and have a blood alcohol content above .08% and have their life turned upside down for years. But your can get pulled over and ticketed for driving like a complete idiot risking the lives of everyone around you and all you have to do is go to the comedy club for a DD course. Not that I condone drunk driving because I definatly do not but it just seems like the laws are kind of lopsided.
12-16-2007, 09:51 AM
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That's kind of what I was going to say. Does it really present a good message to teenage drivers, who have a dangerous sense of bravado to begin with, to tell them, hey, speeding is perfectly acceptable so long as you don't get caught?
You must not have kids.
Of course you tell them not to speed. You also hope they aren't having sex, but do you want them caught without a condom? You want them to be responsible with money, but do you let them get a checking account and become overdrawn so they learn responsibility? I could go on and on, but why? One day you may have kids of your own.......................don't wanna scare you.
12-16-2007, 10:14 AM
Location: Wiesbaden, Germany
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Once again, very well put sapphire. Maybe one day they'll invent that don't do it button implant and all kids will be perfect angels, but until then... I'm pretty happy with mine. by the time I was my sons age I had already had my license suspended and by the time I was my daughters age I already had a family.. Not saying I regret any of it, but I definitely followed the "Go for it" motto long before Nike started advertising it...
12-16-2007, 01:06 PM
Location: Diyallusss, TX
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rd2007
Ha ha, I figured I'd take some heat for the radar detector comment.. they are 100% legal in Texas though, except on bases.
But does your insurance company know you have it?
Most carriers I've worked for will not cover a vehicle with a radar detector and, if a radar detector is added later their policies actually exclude coverage for any claims (for some obvious reasons)....
And police officers DO note the presence of them on their completed reports, which means, we - the adjusters, will find out about it and coverage for that accident would be, of course, excluded - and.................... the insured will probably be immediately dropped altogether....
when they attempt to secure insurance elsewhere, the new carrier WILL find out about your radar detector, and you'll only be able to get insurance at about 400% of what you previously paid..... and yes, you can remove it prior to a physical inpsection by the new carrier, but...... we will know about it anyway......
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12-16-2007, 02:20 PM
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You must not have kids.
I think that's a false syllogism. A radar detector doesn't protect you from anything but getting caught breaking a law. It allows you to avoid the consequences of your actions.
A condom promotes safe sex. A radar detector doesn't promote safe driving, it promotes driving however you feel like and then warns you in time to slow down and pretend you've been following the rules in order to avoid punishment.
I very much resent your snide comment about my having or not having children. I had a baby. He was stillborn. Thank you for reminding me that I will never have the opportunity to teach him about responsible driving.
12-16-2007, 02:38 PM
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Eleanor Rigby
I think that's a false syllogism. A radar detector doesn't protect you from anything but getting caught breaking a law. It allows you to avoid the consequences of your actions.
A condom "allows you to avoid the consequences of your actions", hopefully, as well. A condom can not promote safe sex because there is no such thing, except in a totally 100% monogamous relationship.
The comment about "you must not have kids" was followed by a smiley, not intended to be rude or snide. If you want to take what is said on a message board to heart then so be it. I'm sorry you had a stillborn child. There must not be anything more painful than that.
You've tried "correcting" me before, and if you'd like I can do a search for that particular comment. I understand that you are in law school, and that's very admirable, but this is a message board, not one of your classes. Lighten up.
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Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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