Large job announcements (San Antonio, San Marcos, Seguin: high school, contractor, college)

[StealthRabbit]

I have negotiated time-off perks on each of my jobs.

Usually as an hourly grunt.

If a company bulks at an enhanced leave schedule, I have them draft up a comp time equivalent. I usually work 30 -50% overtime, and every weekend possible, so they are more than happy to give me equal time off without pay, when work load decreases, or schedule allows. Suits me, as I have just been paid time and 1/2 or double time for the OT, so I come out financially ahead.

My favorite employer allowed us to take the entire summer off without pay, if we would find and train a school teacher to do our job. The company wanted to keep teachers relevant on current technologies and aware of local employment needs.

It was great for the teachers, company, and workers + always provided more qualified applicants from students. It was great for me, as I would go learn something new that would help my job, or enhance my future skill set.

Always negotiate a win for your employer and coworkers... I.e. Don't demand, but illustrate the benefit to the employer.

[Pancho-Villa]

Originally Posted by StealthRabbit

I have negotiated time-off perks on each of my jobs.

Usually as an hourly grunt.

If a company bulks at an enhanced leave schedule, I have them draft up a comp time equivalent. I usually work 30 -50% overtime, and every weekend possible, so they are more than happy to give me equal time off without pay, when work load decreases, or schedule allows. Suits me, as I have just been paid time and 1/2 or double time for the OT, so I come out financially ahead.

My favorite employer allowed us to take the entire summer off without pay, if we would find and train a school teacher to do our job. The company wanted to keep teachers relevant on current technologies and aware of local employment needs.

It was great for the teachers, company, and workers + always provided more qualified applicants from students. It was great for me, as I would go learn something new that would help my job, or enhance my future skill set.

Always negotiate a win for your employer and coworkers... I.e. Don't demand, but illustrate the benefit to the employer.

Good job StealthRabbit. It's done frequently before one even accepts a position as well.

[L210]

Originally Posted by StealthRabbit

If you are willing to wait for the "big jobs", just hang out on USAjobs. Eventually you will get through the whole process from application to first day on the job. It can take years, but worth the wait for many. Keep several openings on your plate and in action at once. Many times the wheel stops before you get in the door,m for any number of a thousand reasons.

If you have to eat while waiting, get a night shift or weekend factory or healthcare job. That gives you everyday off to keep looking for something better, or to attend school during the day time.

I've submitted a couple of hundred applications on USAJobs over the past five years or so. I've found it easier to get city and county jobs. If all I cared about was a good retirement plan, I would go back to being a corrections officer. It's hard to beat law enforcement retirement these days.

[ged_782]

Originally Posted by Pancho-Villa

Your vacation time/PTO can often be negotiated with your next job. Don't let that stop you from looking/leaving.

Originally Posted by ged_782

Unless you are an executive, and/or would have an employment contract, or you would be working in an entrepreneurial-type environment that does not have a formal structure, PTO/vacation time is going to be non-negotiable, in the vast majority of cases.

Originally Posted by Pancho-Villa

I would have to disagree. Of course union employment and rank and file entry level it wouldn't be...but the majority of others most certainly are negotiable.

I wouldn't mind hearing the names of a few local employers, where this is commonly negotiated, for other than high-level or contract employees.

[Pancho-Villa]

Why? Are you looking? What field and level?

[ged_782]

Originally Posted by Pancho-Villa

Why? Are you looking? What field and level?

Your post suggested PTO is "often" negotiable, but my experience is that is not, with the exceptions I pointed out (executive level, contract employee, unusual talent, entrepreneurial/startup venture, etc.). It would probably be the kiss of death for a prospective employee to request a paid time off allowance beyond the employer's standard allowance, and would eliminate that individual from consideration, at least as far as local employers I am familiar with are concerned.


But if it's pretty commonplace, except for entry-level, as you suggest, there should be a number of them locally. I just don't know who they are. I'd like to hear a few names dropped.


I honestly suspect you are among the very fortunate minority, whose value to an employer is such that you can afford to negotiate benefits and perks that are beyond the standard package provided to rank-and-file employees.

[ashbeeigh]

This pto talk reminds me of the ice breakers commercial.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=orUBFkU18Yg

[Pancho-Villa]

Originally Posted by ged_782

Your post suggested PTO is "often" negotiable, but my experience is that is not, with the exceptions I pointed out (executive level, contract employee, unusual talent, entrepreneurial/startup venture, etc.). It would probably be the kiss of death for a prospective employee to request a paid time off allowance beyond the employer's standard allowance, and would eliminate that individual from consideration, at least as far as local employers I am familiar with are concerned.


But if it's pretty commonplace, except for entry-level, as you suggest, there should be a number of them locally. I just don't know who they are. I'd like to hear a few names dropped.


I honestly suspect you are among the very fortunate minority, whose value to an employer is such that you can afford to negotiate benefits and perks that are beyond the standard package provided to rank-and-file employees.

I don't work for a local employer. Sent you a DM.

[Azure110]

Originally Posted by ged_782

Your post suggested PTO is "often" negotiable, but my experience is that is not, with the exceptions I pointed out (executive level, contract employee, unusual talent, entrepreneurial/startup venture, etc.). It would probably be the kiss of death for a prospective employee to request a paid time off allowance beyond the employer's standard allowance, and would eliminate that individual from consideration, at least as far as local employers I am familiar with are concerned.


But if it's pretty commonplace, except for entry-level, as you suggest, there should be a number of them locally. I just don't know who they are. I'd like to hear a few names dropped.


I honestly suspect you are among the very fortunate minority, whose value to an employer is such that you can afford to negotiate benefits and perks that are beyond the standard package provided to rank-and-file employees.

It *is* very rare for PTO to be negotiable in most positions and for most employees.... and I find it odd that despite all the claims here that people achieve this, they do not want to drop names.

[Pancho-Villa]

That's because some of you may work for these firms now. I didn't want to make anyone feel bad that they didn't use their negotiating skills to obtain a larger amount of PTO upon starting.