Mass Shooting in Sutherland Springs, Texas (Howe, Vega: crimes, gated, live in)

[Azure110]

Originally Posted by slingshot

All that more gun control would have done is to STOP THE PERSON WHO STOPPED THE SHOOTING.

How would more gun control stop the person that stopped the shooting? If said person is legit and follows the law then he or she should have no problem passing all checks and paperwork in place that is designed to prevent the wrong person buying a gun. Oh wait, is the moaning and whining because the process of buying a gun requires a bit more red tape? Big deal.

It doesn't matter anyways. Most of us will be dead before we come to our senses.

[malcorub16]

Originally Posted by slingshot

So, why do these people pick schools, churches, malls, concerts, crowded sidewalks, college campuses, etc. as their target? It's because they know that those places are the most likely to have no opposition. At least for long enough for them to do the most harm. It takes law enforcement too long to respond to stop major loss of life, in most cases.
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These are all public places where regular people congregate, what else is there?

[TexasRedneck]

Originally Posted by Remington Steel

So we should let law abiding citizens purchase/ keep their military grade automatic weapons simply because the “bad guys” still have theirs? That’s the type of reasoning that will keep the snowball effect going and going and there will NEVER be an end to this madness.

How many law abiding citizens own "military grade automatic weapons"?

[Azure110]

Originally Posted by TexasRedneck

How many law abiding citizens own "military grade automatic weapons"?

I fixed the quote for you so it will be easier to answer, if you can.

So we should let law abiding citizens purchase/ keep their weapons simply because the “bad guys” still have theirs? That’s the type of reasoning that will keep the snowball effect going and going and there will NEVER be an end to this madness.

[slingshot]

Quote:Azure110:
"So we should let law abiding citizens purchase/ keep their weapons simply because the “bad guys” still have theirs? That’s the type of reasoning that will keep the snowball effect going and going and there will NEVER be an end to this madness."

Slingshot....That's probably correct, because you haven't come up with a solution to take guns away guns from "bad guys".

[shoe01]

May be the worst thread I’ve ever seen.

[TrapperL]

military grade automatic weapons

TRN, where did that come from? The guy didn't have a military weapon as in full auto. The rifle came from Academy and they don't sell full auto weapons per one of the managers at Academy.

The end fault here is the US Air Force. They failed to report the clown had a Dishonorable Discharge AND had serve time for child/wife abuse. Either would have stopped clownboy from buying the rifle. But the Air Force never reported it to anybody. Clownboy would have never gotten any of the security guard jobs as well. Had the Air Force done its job, clownboy would not have been able to purchase the rifle. Most likely, this would not have happened. Hard to say as the criminals seems to buy just about anything off of the streets that are illegal....like drugs, weapons, explosives, cars, chemicals, etc.

[Azure110]

Originally Posted by slingshot

That's probably correct, because you haven't come up with a solution to take guns away guns from "bad guys".

Fixed your quote also. You are welcome.

As for your statement......any reasonable solution gets killed by NRA fanatics as infringing on gun owners rights.

[cBach]

Originally Posted by TexasRedneck

The REAL difference is that there are those of us that appreciate and acknowledge the great comfort that prayer can give, and are humble enough that saying so doesn't bother us. It's sad that the blackness of your heart is such that you feel empowered to attempt to ridicule others for doing something that doesn't affect you.

But, don't worry - we'll pray for you!


Bless your heart.

Prayer without action is powerless.

https://healtheland.wordpress.com/20...-is-powerless/

Praying tells God to prop open a door. You still must enter.

With regards to shooting, as my whole point seemed to go over your head... If you pray but don't do anything about this shooting other than pray, then you are powerless and your prayer is meaningless. You must pray for the strength to do what you need to do to make a change, not pray for those that are already deceased. It's too late for them...

"The key moment comes AFTER we have prayed. What do we do then? This is the critical point where many Believers fail. Prayer requires action on our part. Too many who pray, fail to follow up their prayers with ACTION! They pray and seek God for a need in their life, finish praying, and then sit back waiting for God to meet their need. Is God able? Of course, He is God! However, never forget that we pray out of faith, and true Biblical faith requires ACTION!

If you are praying for God to heal your body, pray, but then ACT! Go see the doctors and specialists that are out there to help you heal. Go research what your health issue is and find the best people possible to help bring complete and total healing to your body. God heals in many ways and by far the most common way God heals is through human instruments called doctors. So if you need healing, pray, ask God to heal you, and then put your faith into action and do all you can in seeing your body healed.

If you are praying for God to meet your financial needs, pray, but then ACT! Seek out successful men and women and get their wise counsel. Sit down and put a game plan together to help you meet your financial needs and achieve your financial goals. God can provide for us in many ways, but His most common form of provision is through our hard work. So if you have financial needs, pray, ask God to provide for you, then put your faith into action and do all you can to see that your financial needs are met.

If you are praying for your marriage or for a relationship, pray, but then ACT! Seek out Godly counsel from your pastor or some other qualified Christian counselor. Get away with your spouse or the person you are in a relationship with and spend quality time openly and honestly communicating with each other."

[Jimbo302]

Originally Posted by Remington Steel

So we should let law abiding citizens purchase/ keep their military grade automatic weapons ...

I think you may be incorrectly labeling your subject, here.

That said, yes, why would a law abiding citizens legally owned property be taken due to a separate person's actions?

Originally Posted by Azure110

I fixed the quote for you so it will be easier to answer, if you can.

So we should let law abiding citizens purchase/ keep their weapons simply because the “bad guys” still have theirs?

Not "simply" because, but it does seem like a more than understandable reason, indeed.