Mass Shooting in Sutherland Springs, Texas (Howe: buy, schools, college)

[ged_782]

Originally Posted by slingshot

The armed citizen hit the shooter twice. The third shot was self-inflicted to his
head. He was out of ammo in the gun that he left at the scene. Evidently, he had another gun and more ammo.

It was reported the shooter had additional firearms inside his vehicle.


Would it have been safe for the citizen who tried to stop him assume that the shooter had run out of ammo, had no other weapons, was done with the spree, and therefore no longer a threat?

[cBach]

Originally Posted by sapphire

And what are you doing? Not praying but solving the world's problems, I'm sure.

I'll tell you what you're doing. Absolutely nothing. Keyboard warrior is not "doing something." Literally none of us is doing anything to stop this because we can't.

The difference is I'm not saying "All we need is to come together and sing cumbaya".

God cracks a door open, you must open the door and go in.

[TexasRedneck]

Originally Posted by cBach

The difference is I'm not saying "All we need is to come together and sing cumbaya".

God cracks a door open, you must open the door and go in.

The REAL difference is that there are those of us that appreciate and acknowledge the great comfort that prayer can give, and are humble enough that saying so doesn't bother us. It's sad that the blackness of your heart is such that you feel empowered to attempt to ridicule others for doing something that doesn't affect you.

But, don't worry - we'll pray for you!


Bless your heart.

[movingwiththewind]

Originally Posted by TexasRedneck

The REAL difference is that there are those of us that appreciate and acknowledge the great comfort that prayer can give, and are humble enough that saying so doesn't bother us. It's sad that the blackness of your heart is such that you feel empowered to attempt to ridicule others for doing something that doesn't affect you.

But, don't worry - we'll pray for you!


Bless your heart.

Pure BS. Nobody here is against prayers. And you can keep your sarcasm to yourself.

Hypocrites! You pray for the victims and their relatives, yet stubbornly continue sticking to your guns, the very things that continue killing thousands of innocent people in this country, and even saying more guns is the answer.

By not willing to drastically change gun laws and ridiculing people who suggest actions , you cause the suffering of the very people you pray for.

[slingshot]

Originally Posted by movingwiththewind

Pure BS. Nobody here is against prayers. And you can keep your sarcasm to yourself.

Hypocrites! You pray for the victims and their relatives, yet stubbornly continue sticking to your guns, the very things that continue killing thousands of innocent people in this country, and even saying more guns is the answer.

By not willing to drastically change gun laws and ridiculing people who suggest actions , you cause the suffering of the very people you pray for.

In your way of 'thinking' all that would happen with stricter gun laws is that law abiding citizens would be at the mercy of those that do not abide by those laws. Criminals will never give up their guns and even if guns are never manufactured again there are enough to last way past our lifetime. It's the people that brandish those guns that cause them to fire. I've had many guns in my 74 years on this earth, from AK-47's to hunting rifles, to sawed-off shotguns and revolvers and semi-auto pistols, and not one has ever jumped up and fired on it's own. If fact, I have never killed a deer, a hog, a goose, a duck, a turkey, an Elk, or any animal normally hunted. I made those choices. The shooter made the choice for the gun to fire. Gun laws do not need to be fixed. People do.

[Azure110]

Originally Posted by slingshot

Gun laws do not need to be fixed. People do.

BS. It still remains as being too easy for the wrong people to purchase, own and use guns today. You can whine and moan all you want about the infringement of gun owner's rights but that doesn't take precedence over all the lives of people killed by guns...legally and illegally obtained by both bad guys and good guys that went bad.

[Azure110]

Originally Posted by rynetwo

He was able to obtain the gun legally because the Airforce dropped the ball in reporting his domestic abuse.

The AF bears some responsibility in the deaths of all these people then.

I read on MYSA that he had applied for a CHL but was denied. It did not say on what grounds he was denied the CHL but it has me curious.

[movingwiththewind]

Originally Posted by slingshot

In your way of 'thinking' all that would happen with stricter gun laws is that law abiding citizens would be at the mercy of those that do not abide by those laws. Criminals will never give up their guns and even if guns are never manufactured again there are enough to last way past our lifetime. It's the people that brandish those guns that cause them to fire. I've had many guns in my 74 years on this earth, from AK-47's to hunting rifles, to sawed-off shotguns and revolvers and semi-auto pistols, and not one has ever jumped up and fired on it's own. If fact, I have never killed a deer, a hog, a goose, a duck, a turkey, an Elk, or any animal normally hunted. I made those choices. The shooter made the choice for the gun to fire. Gun laws do not need to be fixed. People do.

We have heard this same old story (with some minor variations) many times before.

Guess what, you are wrong!

You want the proof? Just check the gun laws and crime statistics (and the amount of guns and ammunition owned) in the US and compare them with the rest of the developed world. If you don't see any correlation, I can't help you.

If this sounds simplistic to you, yes, this is how simple it is!

Gun laws need to be fixed. End of story. People (the human nature) won't change. How do I know? Read the Bible, the very book many of you on this forum are so fond of.

[Remington Steel]

Originally Posted by slingshot

In your way of 'thinking' all that would happen with stricter gun laws is that law abiding citizens would be at the mercy of those that do not abide by those laws. Criminals will never give up their guns and even if guns are never manufactured again there are enough to last way past our lifetime. It's the people that brandish those guns that cause them to fire. I've had many guns in my 74 years on this earth, from AK-47's to hunting rifles, to sawed-off shotguns and revolvers and semi-auto pistols, and not one has ever jumped up and fired on it's own. If fact, I have never killed a deer, a hog, a goose, a duck, a turkey, an Elk, or any animal normally hunted. I made those choices. The shooter made the choice for the gun to fire. Gun laws do not need to be fixed. People do.

So we should let law abiding citizens purchase/ keep their military grade automatic weapons simply because the “bad guys” still have theirs? That’s the type of reasoning that will keep the snowball effect going and going and there will NEVER be an end to this madness.

[slingshot]

The fact remains that more gun laws effect only law abiding citizens. Criminals will not be affected even a little bit. They do not follow laws. All that more gun control would have done is to STOP THE PERSON WHO STOPPED THE SHOOTING.