Kerrville prejudices toward non-native TXns? (San Antonio, Fredericksburg: private school tuition, live in, military)

[Lovely84]

That is sad but true! A(mexican)lady at school was just talking about that! She lives in New Braunfels...

Originally Posted by wehotex

yeah, but they soon forgot about it. The German communities of TExas were by far the most prejudiced ppl against mexican americans as documented in the book "Are we good neighbors?", a collection of true stories of racial discrimination against latin americans in the 1940s. Even in the 1980s, I would hear ppl say that ppl in Boerne and New Braunfels (German) were very prejudiced.

But I do think that there are too many out-of-staters(espec Californians) invading/buying out our towns and cities. That is a FACT.

[optichris]

I'll probably get lynched for this - I am a native Texan (native San Antonian, even, as is my entire family). I don't hate "transplants" at all, but the thing I do dislike is "Transplant" behavior that comes down here. An Example - All too often, people I know, work with, etc. that moved here in the last few years always comment on how "bad" Texans drive (This statement seems to come from transplants from California, at least in my experience.)

It just so happens that EVERY TIME I get on 1604 for my daily commute, I get passed up by the BMW/Lexus/Mercedes, etc. who are weaving in and out of traffic, going at least 20-30 miles over the speed limit. I don't think it's a coincidence that they nearly all have California, or a state from the NE area's license plates. THATS the type of prejudice I have toward transplants - if you move here, and hate the way locals drive, don't endanger the rest of us so you can drive "like you did back home." If this is your new home, adapt to it. (By the way, I rarely go to Cali, but when I do, I have to take cabs - last time I drove in San Diego, it probably took a few months off my life!)

This is one example, but it's my primary one. Again, I'm not trying to make enemies, etc. I would just want transplants to TX to not try and change it into the state the left, but adapt to it and keep it great is all

[Lovely84]

Originally Posted by optichris

I'll probably get lynched for this - I am a native Texan (native San Antonian, even, as is my entire family). I don't hate "transplants" at all, but the thing I do dislike is "Transplant" behavior that comes down here. An Example - All too often, people I know, work with, etc. that moved here in the last few years always comment on how "bad" Texans drive (This statement seems to come from transplants from California, at least in my experience.)

It just so happens that EVERY TIME I get on 1604 for my daily commute, I get passed up by the BMW/Lexus/Mercedes, etc. who are weaving in and out of traffic, going at least 20-30 miles over the speed limit. I don't think it's a coincidence that they nearly all have California, or a state from the NE area's license plates. THATS the type of prejudice I have toward transplants - if you move here, and hate the way locals drive, don't endanger the rest of us so you can drive "like you did back home." If this is your new home, adapt to it. (By the way, I rarely go to Cali, but when I do, I have to take cabs - last time I drove in San Diego, it probably took a few months off my life!)

This is one example, but it's my primary one. Again, I'm not trying to make enemies, etc. I would just want transplants to TX to not try and change it into the state the left, but adapt to it and keep it great is all

You are sooo right! One almost smashed me the other day at the 281/1604 intersection!

[CamaroGuy]

Originally Posted by wehotex

yeah, but they soon forgot about it. The German communities of TExas were by far the most prejudiced ppl against mexican americans as documented in the book "Are we good neighbors?", a collection of true stories of racial discrimination against latin americans in the 1940s. Even in the 1980s, I would hear ppl say that ppl in Boerne and New Braunfels (German) were very prejudiced.

How do you explain the high rate of inter-marriage between German Americans and Mexican Americans in the San Antonio area?

[Buffyfan]

Originally Posted by optichris

I'll probably get lynched for this - I am a native Texan (native San Antonian, even, as is my entire family). I don't hate "transplants" at all, but the thing I do dislike is "Transplant" behavior that comes down here. An Example - All too often, people I know, work with, etc. that moved here in the last few years always comment on how "bad" Texans drive (This statement seems to come from transplants from California, at least in my experience.)

It just so happens that EVERY TIME I get on 1604 for my daily commute, I get passed up by the BMW/Lexus/Mercedes, etc. who are weaving in and out of traffic, going at least 20-30 miles over the speed limit. I don't think it's a coincidence that they nearly all have California, or a state from the NE area's license plates. THATS the type of prejudice I have toward transplants - if you move here, and hate the way locals drive, don't endanger the rest of us so you can drive "like you did back home." If this is your new home, adapt to it. (By the way, I rarely go to Cali, but when I do, I have to take cabs - last time I drove in San Diego, it probably took a few months off my life!)

This is one example, but it's my primary one. Again, I'm not trying to make enemies, etc. I would just want transplants to TX to not try and change it into the state the left, but adapt to it and keep it great is all

I agree. Most of the transplants on these boards complain how badly we drive. It think it's because they are impatient since we abide by the speed limit!!

[CamaroGuy]

Originally Posted by Buffyfan

I agree. Most of the transplants on these boards complain how badly we drive. It think it's because they are impatient since we abide by the speed limit!!

People drive much better in TX than CA!

[WilGar]

Some people move to Texas and become Texans;some simply move but remain somewhere else. Guess which group raises the ire of Natives?

Something attracted these people to come here-weather, cost of living , freedom from oppressive local or state government, federal witness protection, or employment.

Remember why, when some blue haired woman is in the right lane going 45 on a road that was a wilderness when she was a young woman.

Nothing is more galling to a Native than a sentence that starts, "Where I came from we did it this way."

If that is the way one wants it done that way, go back where that is the way. [Refer to sentence #2.] Don't tell a Texan he needs to "get with it and change".

Accent-I have no real accent unless I am bird hunting and then it is quite thick.

[lplkemc]

Originally Posted by McHopper

The only negative thing about the move there would be the constant
feeling of being an outsider.
I'll tell you one example of what happened to us in Austin.
I went to Sears to pick up portraits of my young son and the girl there
heard me speak. She said, "Where are you from?" I said, "Austin", thinking
she wanted to verify my address. We had lived there a year by then.
But she said, "NO, where are you REALLY FROM?!?"
Obviously, you don't forget that kind of stuff.

thanks for the responses everyone

I am a native Texan who just happens to be living in England. I get these same questions all the time. Every day. yes, it gets old, but people honestly don't usually mean any harm by it. They are interested in finding out how I got here, do I like it, etc.

Accents - you don't think you have an accent. No one thinks they have an accent. This is a global thing. Different parts of the US have different accents, not to mention different parts of each state have an accent.

If I were you, I would just take the questions as being friendly and interested in you. The where you come from and why you would choose there. Some people do think "why would anyone want to live in ______". Honestly I don't think any malice is intended.

[Bo]

Some posts above this one were deleted because they were taking the thread in an off-topic direction that is far afield from the original post. Here's a reminder of the original topic.

Originally Posted by McHopper

I honestly don't mean to offend any Texans, but I have been wondering this for a long time. Do Texans still hate non-native Texans and treat them as
second class citizens?
Here's why I ask: I would entertain the idea of retiring in the Kerrville
or Boerne areas except for the memories I have of how we were treated
when we lived in Austin in the 80's.
My husband and I transferred by choice, not necessity to Austin after
having visited there a few months prior.
We were harrassed constantly by native Texans, who upon hearing us speak
a couple of undrawled words, demanded "Where are you from?" or "Where y'all from?" and "You sound like a YANKEE" This was not gentle curiosity, this
was confrontational.
There were bumper stickers on cars with slogans saying, 'NO YANKEES' or 'Go Home Yankees'.
The people we worked with were not bad after they got past our accents
(or the lack thereof), but sales people and others we met were brutal.
I met many many Texans who in their 20's and 30's had never been north of
Dallas! I couldn't understand the hatred toward us. They were truly resentful
of anyone who moved into 'their' country. We finally gave up and moved
to Oklahoma(very nice people there) and later back to upper midwest then
later still moving to the southwest states of AZ and CA.

So here's my question to y'all now: Do you natives still treat people without
a Texas accent today in a hostile manner and just wish we would all leave
your country?

AND

Does anyone with a midwest accent have a positive experience of assimilation in a Hill Country city or town that they can share to give me
some hope?

thank you in advance

[CamaroGuy]

I'm sorry if my posts were not fit for the thread. I guess I let my passions get away from me sometimes.lol