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Old 04-30-2008, 07:52 AM
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I have also noticed that the car pool parking lots are getting full so that means more people are riding together.
I noticed yesterday that the parking lot surrounding the bus stop at the Sonterra Wal-Mart was unusually crowded. I hadn't made the connection to increased usage of the express bus to downtown until now.
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Old 04-30-2008, 08:04 AM
 
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Dropping gas taxes for a while isn't a very good solution. There are much more effective ways to return a budget surplus to people that won't encourage bad habits.

How long before someone links the rail transit thread?

I currently live in an area where we have a decent commuter rail (different from light rail - this uses regular train tracks and runs ~50mph between stops). It works great, and cuts 15 30 miles off my round trip. Seriously, I had doubts before giving it a try but it takes a good $100 a month off my gas bill. That (if it gets built) and carpooling... unless you want to give an electric conversion a try. Those are pretty much your options in the future.
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Old 04-30-2008, 08:58 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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No worries, I have an AK-47 and lots of ammo, plus an attic full of MREs. I knew it would all come in handy one day...

Cheers! M2
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Old 04-30-2008, 11:16 AM
 
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Lower gas taxes = lower gas prices = increase in demand = prices go up anyway.


We need increased refinery capacity because all the oil in the world will only get bottle-necked at the production level. We haven't had a new refinery built in 30 years as oilcompanies don't want to build them and environmentalists keep suing to prevent them from being built.
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:21 PM
 
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I know some oil and gas people that explained a few things to me. While true, there haven't been any new refineries built within the past 30 years or so, existing ones have been expanded upon heavily and are much more productive than they were when built. Part of the reason is environmental and NIMBY activity, but also because it's been more cost-effective to expand existing locations.
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Old 04-30-2008, 03:18 PM
 
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I know some oil and gas people that explained a few things to me. While true, there haven't been any new refineries built within the past 30 years or so, existing ones have been expanded upon heavily and are much more productive than they were when built. Part of the reason is environmental and NIMBY activity, but also because it's been more cost-effective to expand existing locations.

The population has grown since then, so more than expansions are needed. The NIMBY's are just gonna have to live with it.
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Old 04-30-2008, 04:42 PM
 
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Im actually depressed about gas prices.
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Old 04-30-2008, 05:07 PM
 
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The thing is, I really doubt they're going to drop below 3 again. I think it'll level off, maybe drop some but not dip back.

I plan on dealing with it by carpooling when possible, voting for rail transit and maybe tinkering around with an electric conversion when battery technology matures a little more.
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Old 04-30-2008, 07:43 PM
 
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That so called surplus would disappear pretty quickly if they would complete the repairs needed to the roadway infrastructure.
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Old 04-30-2008, 08:07 PM
 
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Use the surplus so the SUV and truck drivers can be happy?

No.
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