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Old 08-02-2020, 10:55 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Gee these two feel discriminated at Alamo Heights. You were afforded the best public school education in San Antonio and you feel slighted.

Consider the slighted Anglo students who don't have parents in the SA Country Club, a father in the Texas Cavaliers, The Order of the Alamo, the German Club or any of a number of exclusionary organizations that keep out others.

Suck it up Buttercups and be proud of the sacrifices your parents made to make you an AHHS graduate.


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The suggestion near the end of that article about consolidating Bexar County's 20 school districts into a smaller number makes a lot of sense. Some of those districts are rife with cronyism, nepotism and inertia. Some of them have school boards that do little more than posture and argue. Others replace superintendents every 2-3 years. Fewer districts would be better.
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Old 08-03-2020, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX via San Antonio, TX
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Not all students in Alamo Heights are white. Not all of them are rich. There can be discrimination and racism. Did you read the article?

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White students make up 53 percent of Alamo Heights ISD’s enrollment, Hispanics about 40 percent. Barely 2 percent of students are Black.
Through my anti-racism work I have learned not to question the experiences of someone who is biracial, indigenous or a person of color (BIPOC). If they experienced it, they experienced it. You are white centering, apathetic or silencing the experiences of these students and the families by saying it doesn't exist. Look into the book You, Me and White Supremacy before saying these things don't exist. They do because they said they do.

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During a lunch to welcome new students, Hervey said, a woman scolded her for taking a slice of pizza. Hervey hadn’t touched the pizza; the woman had mistaken her for another Black student.

Classmates would touch her hair without permission, Hervey said. Some remarked that she spoke well for a Black girl, recalled Hervey, who will attend Howard University in Washington D.C. this fall — remotely because of the pandemic.


And, I think this was a poor way to introduce the idea of consolidating districts. It started out speaking to emotions, not to the facts that San Antonio is a segregated city that has allowed systemic racism to exisit to and to guide the education of its community.
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Old 08-03-2020, 07:49 PM
 
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Default Ashbeeigh,

What an intelligent post addressing a very ignorant and easily disclosed, subintellectual issue.
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Old 08-04-2020, 07:03 AM
 
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Through my anti-racism work I have learned not to question the experiences of someone who is biracial, indigenous or a person of color (BIPOC). If they experienced it, they experienced it. You are white centering, apathetic or silencing the experiences of these students and the families by saying it doesn't exist. Look into the book You, Me and White Supremacy before saying these things don't exist. They do because they said they do.
Correct me if I am wrong here but I assume that you are a white person just like I am. I am all for equal rights for all but lately it has been getting to the point where it is just angry "and always angry" non-whites basically attacking the "whites" using a broad paint brush.

I didn't read the entire article but it appears these two snowflakes waited until they finished AHHS to complain about treatment and wanting change.

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Old 08-04-2020, 08:58 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Correct me if I am wrong here but I assume that you are a white person just like I am. I am all for equal rights for all but lately it has been getting to the point where it is just angry "and always angry" non-whites basically attacking the "whites" using a broad paint brush.

I didn't read the entire article but it appears these two snowflakes waited until they finished AHHS to complain about treatment and wanting change.
That's the way I read it.

"Touched my hair" -natural curiosity, nothing racial. I have gray hair and children are constantly feeling it.

"Second piece of pizza"-Wah, wah, wah. At my university's 50th anniversary of graduating, I was at a buffet breakfast. I asked for an extra piece of bacon to be told, 'two only". I displayed a second ticket for the buffet since my wife did not attend. Sorry, "two only". I did not suffer irreparable harm, nor find it necessary to tell my story to the newspaper.
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Old 08-04-2020, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX via San Antonio, TX
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Correct me if I am wrong here but I assume that you are a white person just like I am. I am all for equal rights for all but lately it has been getting to the point where it is just angry "and always angry" non-whites basically attacking the "whites" using a broad paint brush.

I didn't read the entire article but it appears these two snowflakes waited until they finished AHHS to complain about treatment and wanting change.
Something has happened in our world where people feel comfortable calling out these issues. They’ve been happening and they’re just now sharing the experience. Nothing about this is “snowflake” like. Touching textured hair is not okay and the student who was called out for taking too much pizza was most likely called out because the cafeteria worker had a stereotype/generalization that the student would likely break the rules. I stand with these students’ experiences and will not offer excuses.
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Old 08-04-2020, 09:22 AM
 
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As far as student racial numbers go, I think Alamo Heights has always been like that. Don't forget, the Alamo Quarry marketplace was built on the site of a former quarry and cement plant.In fact the area was known as Cementville. They provided company housing for white and hispanic employees.The homes actually came from the Pacific Ready Cut House Company of California, one of their home catalogs is on line I think at archives.org. The Missionary Servants of St. Anthony a religious order of women, were founded to give religious instruction and do social work amongst these workers.
I'm 64 years old, and neither my parents or myself went around feeling black peoples hair, or telling jews they have big noses,etc. That's just rude and uncalled for. And as far as consolidating school districts in Bexar County, you will still have favorites, cronism,etc. it isn't going to stop because people are people.
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Old 08-04-2020, 09:43 AM
 
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Something has happened in our world where people feel comfortable calling out these issues. They’ve been happening and they’re just now sharing the experience. Nothing about this is “snowflake” like. Touching textured hair is not okay and the student who was called out for taking too much pizza was most likely called out because the cafeteria worker had a stereotype/generalization that the student would likely break the rules. I stand with these students’ experiences and will not offer excuses.
So you are just going to take her word if she says she didn't get her 2nd slice of pizza because black? The race card is being used too often and far too liberally these days.

Every time someone calls a white person being racist and you stand with that person, maybe you should at least consider if you were actually there and saw the actions happening before your own eyes first.
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Old 08-04-2020, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX via San Antonio, TX
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So you are just going to take her word if she says she didn't get her 2nd slice of pizza because black? The race card is being used too often and far too liberally these days.

Every time someone calls a white person being racist and you stand with that person, maybe you should at least consider if you were actually there and saw the actions happening before your own eyes first.
She didn't attempt to take the pizza, that's the point. And, like I said, she experienced it as a person of color and I'm not going to use my ability to "white center" this conflict to justify any of the interactions she reports. I am "not racist" or "a racist," I am working on being "anti-racist."

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