2020 UTSA and UIW football: We Desperately need them (San Marcos: school, college)

[supfromthesite]

Originally Posted by thenewtexan

Most Power 5 football schools are very selective and are very strong academically.

Alabama is making quite a name for itself recently academic wise (and I believe it due to their recent success in football). UTSA has gotten much better at a much faster rate since they added their football team. I don't think these are coincidences!

[Remington Steel]

Originally Posted by Well done

Well Remington I would send my kid to the Univ. of Michigan to become a Doctor , a lawyer, a football player or, a State Cop .
It is very difficult to be awarded an athletic scholarship to the University of Michigan though. These Ball players who do get a free ride at the University are the best players from all across the country.
I would not say the emphasis was on football at this school, rather on scholastics.
It is just the football which receives far more notoriety.
For the traffic jams they could attend for a criminal justice degree since the State Cops need one.

I took my son to the Univ. of Michigan Hosp. one time for surgery directly from another hospital where he was receiving inadequate care and where he had already been for 8 days. I have never, experienced anything like this U. of M. Hospital. There was valet parking when I,we, arrived and I received a picture ID upon entering which I attached to my shirt collar for my stay in the University hospital with my son. I had the run of the hospital but I would have become lost. There was a concert pianist in the front lobby and alongside and behind him was a museum of sorts with a story of how the hospital was founded in the 1880's well before the football team or the Research Center or University.
I would have needed GPS to maneuver the halls if I did not ask for directions.
There were five teams of four surgeons roaming the U of M hospital hallways on the SECOND shift. These stopped out in the hallway in front of the room and discussed surgical options out loud with each other for the condition. I was listening. After a time one Dr. came in and explained on a vinyl erasable board on the wall, with colored markers, on what would be done during surgery the next morning. These were of course interns only. Within less than one day U. of M. accomplished what the other hospital couldn't do at all, after 8 days.
When I left the hospital the next morning after the procedure had gone well, I was sort of astonished. My SUV had been moved right next to the doors where I had entered, and I left with a feeling of great joy over the hospital's efficiency from arrival to departure.
By the very next morning my son was home.
The other "hospital" had claimed that "They would need at least another month to stabilize my son's physical condition before he could even enter surgery". At which point I told them - "That is all right because I was moving him to another hospital." We left with the IV still in my son's arm for the U of M Hosp.

Which is the best there? The Ball Players or the Surgeons and Medical Center? Both are exceptional.

I was just saying. You made that comment after you talked about how great the football team is and how much “traffic” the games cause. Like you were proud of that fact.

[StealthRabbit]

Originally Posted by WilGar

Haven't read the article yet. FOOTBALL=TEXAS=COLLEGE.

You're not a real Texan are you?

Yes, I note in Texas they even build swimming pools in YARDS! (still in 2020)

I think international swimming events / regulation records... have been done in meters since ~ 1920 (WW1)

Football?, don't know, I've never gone to a football game in my 60+ yrs. no "Rush". (And I'm from Nebraska!)

[toc1996]

Really? They accept about 18% of applicants and according to Princeton Review look for students in the top 5%, about 40% applicants got a 1400-1500 on the SAT, 60% got 33-35 on the ACT.
Seems like a pretty rigorous emphasis on academics. Notre Dame is ranked by Forbes magazine as the #18 best university in the nation. I’m a lawyer and have worked with two lawyers who attended the law school there. It’s ranked top 30 last time I checked. Pretty amazing to have such a great football program and be one the best and most selective universities in the country I’d say....

Originally Posted by Remington Steel

I was just talking with a buddy the other day about how I've never heard of anyone graduating from Notre Dame, but have heard about many people who were on the football team. Basically there is more emphasis put on the football team there than academics.

[Well done]

People from all over the country may drive great distances or even fly in to see a University of Michigan football game. It is quite remarkable to think that a college ball game would be so important to so many. It is the remarkability of this phenomenon, that I wrote of when I mentioned traffic jams.
Being caught up in one of these traffic nightmares on the city streets of a little college town carries with it no sense of pride. I can tell you this. I don't know how many people The Big House holds ( the stadium nickname) but it is quite a few.
I attended one Michigan college game and that is where I witnessed a strange occurrence in the stands. Maybe it happens everywhere, I do not know. Some poor girl was bodily picked up and passed hand over hand overhead - upward, all the way to the top of the bleachers by guys whom were also seated in the stadium bleachers. She was just handed upwards by all these guys just like a sack of potatoes. I never knew this was done by people until then. This practice was very much against college rules I later learned. The girl did not seem to mind it very much, I thought.
I also attended one San Antonio Gunslingers football game at Alamo Stadium around 1985 or so.

Originally Posted by Remington Steel

I was just saying. You made that comment after you talked about how great the football team is and how much “traffic” the games cause. Like you were proud of that fact.

[GEM-Texas]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/o...sultPosition=1


Won't change the mind of the 'fans'. Might change the minds of kids who don't want to be exploited for the 'fans'.

[sinsativ]

Sep 5, 2017, 8:30am EDT
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Last month, Josh Rosen, star quarterback of UCLA’s football team, ignited a controversy when he said in an interview that “football and school just don’t go together.” His point was simple enough: College football has become a business. It’s like a full-time job for players, and the demands of work outweigh the demands of school.

What Rosen said shouldn’t be controversial at all. It made headlines because college football players aren’t supposed to say things like that. College football fans, university administrators, and especially players are obliged to affirm the collective delusion that this is about sportsmanship and school — and not about money.

But it’s all about money.

The NCAA, the nonprofit association that runs college athletics, takes in close to $8 billion a year. According to a Business Insider report, there are now 24 schools that make at least $100 million annually from their athletic departments. In 2015, the most profitable athletic department in the country was at Texas A&M, raking in over $192 million. The University of Texas wasn’t far behind with $183 million.

Champions Way, a new book by New York Times reporter Mike McIntire, is the latest inquiry into the seedy underbelly of college sports. The “corporate-athletics complex,” as he calls it, corrupts universities, skirts federal tax laws, bullies the IRS, relies heavily on private donors, and sets players up to fail after their sports careers are over by pushing them into academically vapid curriculums.

[RadiantBaby]

We don't NEED sports.

What we need are students getting a good education so they can become adults ready to handle the world.

Sports are just ways to keep the working class occupied and the mega rich getting a lot richer.

[supfromthesite]

Sports have made UTSA a better university academically.

[Well done]

Many of these kids could never pay for this type of university degree which their athletic talents can afford them. So they will be getting an education, yes. Plus a miniscule chance to play professional football.
Besides game enthusiasm is contagious and helps keep the student body motivated.
Right. Sports cause economic exploitation.

As for the money aspect of College football, well, if there is a way to make couple of bucks out of it, it will happen. It is the American way.

Originally Posted by RadiantBaby

We don't NEED sports.

What we need are students getting a good education so they can become adults ready to handle the world.

Sports are just ways to keep the working class occupied and the mega rich getting a lot richer.