City of San Antonio, Bexar County sue Gov. Abbott to restore their power to fight COVID-19 (stats, oil)

[Me007gold]

Originally Posted by WVNomad

Everything I wrote was completely factual…again, no opinions, editorial comments, etc. You do understand: (a) he banned local governments from instituting mask mandates, and (b) he contracted COVID? You are the one making any implications or associations. I’m just reporting the news…you do think people are entitled to all the information that is out there don’t you?

You're being disingenuous. Its clear to everybody what you are doing, and it's not "just posting news"

[rynetwo]

My take is I am fully vaccinated and did my part. When the next shot comes I'll do a wait and see because the second dose made me the sickest I have been. (Albeit for 18 hours so I think I can manage)

If the store wants me to wear a mask and I really want in I put it on. That said, we don't need the government to issue a mandate because they know better. (lab debacle anyone) Think of it as an enter at your own risk thing. One thing I am not for is not following the business owners requirement. If you are that jackalope you need to be in trouble in some manner.

WVNomad I'm saying if you want masks to protect you wear the right ones. You can buy the N95 masks in some places and the KN95s everywhere. The later being a China approved version versus the former being the USA standard. Or just do not leave your house until the pandemic is gone.

Also, I'm so over the science followers who only follow it when they feel good about. No one is saying that migrants are causing the problem. What a normal rational person would conclude is if their positive rate was higher than ours before this latest outbreak and now rivals the locals, they are a part of a larger problem. The untrained teenage journalist over at Kens 5 and Ksat12 are doing their best to cover that up in article headlines, but they still seem to provide relevant data that dispels the headlines as usual.

[Azure110]

There has been reports of some school districts in Texas (Not any in San Antonio that I am aware of) adding masks to school dress code to circumvent the mask mandate ban.

Bottom line is that it should be up to the parents to decide, not the school when it comes to face masks. Just my two cents.

[maccupiccu]

if you're a private school, you're free to implement mask mandate. but if you're public school, where tax payers are FORCED to pay for it even if the tax payer decides not to enroll their kids to said public school (which I think is a despicable practice, as any other types of COERCION), then it should be up to the parents to decide...mask mandate on top of robbing tax payers is just disgusting...
if school district wants to have more freedom and autonomy, then stop forcing people to pay, make it voluntary, pay or donate to public school voluntarily. you want to keep your freedom and autonomy to implement any policy that you want (including mask mandate)? then you also need to learn to not infringe on others' their autonomy and freedom (by taking their money BY FORCE)...quite simple eh?

[CamillaB]

Originally Posted by maccupiccu

if you're a private school, you're free to implement mask mandate. but if you're public school, where tax payers are FORCED to pay for it even if the tax payer decides not to enroll their kids to said public school (which I think is a despicable practice, as any other types of COERCION), then it should be up to the parents to decide...mask mandate on top of robbing tax payers is just disgusting...
if school district wants to have more freedom and autonomy, then stop forcing people to pay, make it voluntary, pay or donate to public school voluntarily. you want to keep your freedom and autonomy to implement any policy that you want (including mask mandate)? then you also need to learn to not infringe on others' their autonomy and freedom (by taking their money BY FORCE)...quite simple eh?

By not wearing a mask you're infringing on other people's rights to not be possibly infected by a pathogen you may be infected with. The constitution does not protect your right to infect others with potentially deadly infections. It never has. We've never had the freedom to harm one another in the name of individual freedom. If you don't want your kid to wear a mask and protect others, then homeschool your kid. That's a choice right there, that's your freedom right there.

[TexasRedneck]

Originally Posted by CamillaB

By not wearing a mask you're infringing on other people's rights to not be possibly infected by a pathogen you may be infected with. The constitution does not protect your right to infect others with potentially deadly infections. It never has. We've never had the freedom to harm one another in the name of individual freedom. If you don't want your kid to wear a mask and protect others, then homeschool your kid. That's a choice right there, that's your freedom right there.

The masks in question are nowhere near capable of stopping a virus - they're just a symbol of the control politicians can exert over the population, and the lack of critical thinking skills of those that go along with such foolishness.

[WilGar]

Public officials Christmas and New Years' advice- same mantra-social distancing, masks.................blah, blah, blah

Want real statistics and information? Go to Metro Health? Oops------Closed for holidays. Nothing since 12/23

Express News Headlines SCREAM 2000 positives in three days.

Behind the headlines

12/27 900+
12/28 500+
12/29 400+

Dr. WilGar. Omicron break between 1/9-1/23, COVID will have run its course.



Too early for ambitious New Years' Resolutions?

Fauci needs to retire.

Nirenberg needs to fix potholes.

Common sense needs to return.

[Me007gold]

Originally Posted by CamillaB

By not wearing a mask you're infringing on other people's rights to not be possibly infected by a pathogen you may be infected with. The constitution does not protect your right to infect others with potentially deadly infections. It never has. We've never had the freedom to harm one another in the name of individual freedom. If you don't want your kid to wear a mask and protect others, then homeschool your kid. That's a choice right there, that's your freedom right there.

Do masks only work one way? If you are wearing your mask then you are protected, right? You worry about you.

[WVNomad]

Originally Posted by Me007gold

Do masks only work one way? If you are wearing your mask then you are protected, right? You worry about you.

Well, there is evidence that wearing a mask also protects those around you….that seems to be the concept with regard to requiring everyone to wear a mask on planes and buses. I’m not here to debate the validity of that evidence, (certainly a lot of folks think otherwise) but if one believes that, it explains their concerns about being around others who don’t elect to do so.

In Texas, rightly or wrongly, the state government has taken a hands off approach to requiring masks. The reality of the situation, regardless of your beliefs, is that if you don’t want to be around unmasked people then you need to adjust your behavior by avoiding those situations. I don’t think that is appropriate governance or sensible public health policy, but that’s the way it is.

So, I think you are absolutely right…the best you can do is worry about you.

[TexasRedneck]

Originally Posted by WVNomad

concept with regard to requiring everyone to wear a mask on planes and buses. I’m not here to debate the validity of that evidence, (certainly a lot of folks think otherwise) but if one believes that, it explains their concerns about being around others who don’t elect to do so.

New York and CA both have pretty draconian mask requirements in place. Doesn't seem to have much real positive effect, does it? I've been in controlled environments, and the masks they expect their subjects to wear would get you laughed out of any self-respecting lab in the world.