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Old 03-18-2009, 10:46 AM
 
Location: San Quilmas, Tx
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I believe this thread started as a result of a BCSD driving through a neighborhood at a speed that was unsafe and unneeded. When confronted , the sheriff overreacted and tried to intimidate the poster with other deputies. A citizen knows when someone is exceeding the speed limit and is a hazard to the very citizens being protected. We expect to be protected and not have a second rule of law exercised by the officer.

Asking an airline pilot why something happened or asking another question as to what occurred during a flight is expected and encouraged.

You may not be a cop, but I am an airline pilot.
Two very different jobs. That analogy escapes me right at the moment....
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Old 03-20-2009, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Potranco/1604
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Originally Posted by WilGar View Post
I believe this thread started as a result of a BCSD driving through a neighborhood at a speed that was unsafe and unneeded. When confronted , the sheriff overreacted and tried to intimidate the poster with other deputies. A citizen knows when someone is exceeding the speed limit and is a hazard to the very citizens being protected. We expect to be protected and not have a second rule of law exercised by the officer.

Asking an airline pilot why something happened or asking another question as to what occurred during a flight is expected and encouraged.

You may not be a cop, but I am an airline pilot.
I'm talking about respect and letting people do what they're trained to do without interference from someone who thinks they know better, but doesn't.

You want me coming into your cabin and telling you how to fly your plane?
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Old 03-20-2009, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Wiesbaden, Germany
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there is no cop that is trained to go through residential areas at speeds approaching and sometimes exceeding double the posted limit when they are simply patrolling.
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Old 03-20-2009, 07:08 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I'm talking about respect and letting people do what they're trained to do without interference from someone who thinks they know better, but doesn't.

You want me coming into your cabin and telling you how to fly your plane?
Respect is earned.

Additionally, I would never hinder someone from doing his job. However, I expect the law under which I am expected to follow will also be followed by the sheriff deputy. It is apparent the deputy was caught disobeying the law and tried to intimidate the citizen. Instead of shrugging his shoulders and admitting his error, he attempted to use other officers to quieten the taxpayer's ire.

Come into my cockpit? No, but I am more than willing to explain and if needed, defend my decisions to a passenger. Additionally, I am monitored by another pilot, an Air Traffic Control system and have on board a flight recorder and voice recorder.

I expect the police where I live to be examples, not rogues and, if not, I will demand a meeting with the chief.
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Old 03-22-2009, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Potranco/1604
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Originally Posted by WilGar View Post
Respect is earned.

Additionally, I would never hinder someone from doing his job. However, I expect the law under which I am expected to follow will also be followed by the sheriff deputy. It is apparent the deputy was caught disobeying the law and tried to intimidate the citizen. Instead of shrugging his shoulders and admitting his error, he attempted to use other officers to quieten the taxpayer's ire.

Come into my cockpit? No, but I am more than willing to explain and if needed, defend my decisions to a passenger. Additionally, I am monitored by another pilot, an Air Traffic Control system and have on board a flight recorder and voice recorder.

I expect the police where I live to be examples, not rogues and, if not, I will demand a meeting with the chief.
Well that's what I said. Complain through proper channels. The OP was sticking his nose in where it didn't belong.
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Old 03-22-2009, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Wiesbaden, Germany
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so we should let other cars go flying through neighborhoods without saying anything to the drivers?
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Old 03-22-2009, 06:20 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Well that's what I said. Complain through proper channels. The OP was sticking his nose in where it didn't belong.
That is not what I said. The OP had a sheriff deputy drive in a dangerous fashion and confronted him. What would be the result if a pet or child was hit unnecessarily? I have little to no faith that a complaint to a higher authority at the sheriff's department would yield anything.

What I DID say was that where I live, if I were not satisfied by by an officer's action, I would talk to the chief. I do not see the same respect for the taxpayer by the sheriff's department or , for that matter, SAPD.
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Old 03-23-2009, 02:03 PM
 
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This thread has brought out a ton of people's true feelings for cops, and while you may or may not agree with the original post, how it was handled, how it should be handled or anything else, this weekend's tragedy in Oakland shows that we NEED to have respect for these men and women and what they do for us.

A routine traffic stop ended up with three dead, and another fighting for their life. When you think about what they do for us, you need to recognize that these men went to work, and never came home because of one idiot.

If a cop is speeding through a neighborhood (which we all agree they shouldn't) and he's pulled over by someone with the B***S to do so, the first thing going through his mind isn't that someone is concerned. It's probably that you needed assistance, and then when they saw you didn't, they probably figured that anyone doing this MAY be a little off kilter and they need to worry about their own safety and call for backup.

Things can always be handled differently, but there are ways to deal with this, like going through the proper channels.

But RESPECT what these people do for us. You may not like that they pull you over from time to time, but they lay their life on the line every day, and they deserve your respect.
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:49 PM
 
Location: South Side
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(SAPD NOT Bexar co)


I-Team: SAPD responsible for*1,647*car accidents | Latest News | KENS5.com (http://www.kens5.com/latestnews/stories/KENS20090323-Iteam_Police_Crashes.6501aa07.html - broken link)
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Old 03-23-2009, 11:34 PM
 
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(SAPD NOT Bexar co)


I-Team: SAPD responsible for*1,647*car accidents | Latest News | KENS5.com (http://www.kens5.com/latestnews/stories/KENS20090323-Iteam_Police_Crashes.6501aa07.html - broken link)
Kens is a little slow on the uptake here.....guess they watched the news last week (on WOAI)!
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