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Old 01-01-2010, 10:01 AM
 
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Teen charged in fatal plot against dad

What a tragic story. The 15-year old teen suspects are in custody. Apparently the teen gave one of his father's shotguns to a friend which was used in the murder. The murder had been planned for months.

Perhaps the most disturbing part of the story is that the mother immediately suspected her son was involved. Perhaps the son had displayed clues that he may harm his father.
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Old 01-01-2010, 10:08 AM
 
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Doesn't surprise me one bit. 15 year old punk wants to be a man....only now his life is ruined and for what? 3 more years and he would have been outta there to "do what he wants". I feel bad for the family, and the Mom must be devastated to have known from the start that it was her kid that was responsible.

Poor guy....one article stated that he had really worked hard to get where he was. Too bad his son couldn't have learned the work ethic and the responsibility, rather than just feeling entitled.

And, let's not forget the other boy's family. How sad that all these lives are never going to be the same.
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Old 01-01-2010, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Near downtown SA
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So very sad for sure. The neighbors were shown saying the father was a hard worker and good father and that possibly the boy didn't like the restrictions he place on his son. I just don't get these kids nowadays. My condolences to the family.
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:30 PM
 
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I don't think it is fair to blame video games or violent movies. I'm not trying to turn this post into a political discussion, but what kind of message do we send to our kids when we resort to war as a solution?

The answer: Violence gets results.
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:43 PM
 
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I don't blame video games or violent movies. I blame a kid that can't see past next weekend. Kids make really stupid decisions sometimes, and this one happened to be deadly. I'm almost positive he's regretting it tonight, but with a kid's lack of foresight, he didn't see that coming.

I think we should leave the politics out of this.
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Old 01-02-2010, 05:05 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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So sad is right. Everyday my daughter comes home from school (Sul Ross Middle School) and tells me about how some kids talk about their parents. What are we doing wrong? Who do we blame their insolence on? Why are they murdering us? I feel so blessed that my daughter knows how hard I have struggled to raise her. I have raised her on my own since she was 4 years old. She is 11 now and in the 6th grade. My prayers go out to the family and I hope the mother doesn't blame herself for this terrible tragedy. You can't call the boy a punk, he was just a mentally disturbed child who has to live with the truth that he killed his father. He will relive that horror every time he closes his eyes. The Justice System (hopefully) will do the right thing. Parents....lock up those darn guns!!!!! Truly, let's not forget the other misguided child who also threw his life away thinking they could get away with such a terrible thing. My condolences to both families. What a waste of a great father!! I'm actually crying as I type this. So sad!!!

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Old 01-02-2010, 05:13 PM
 
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Nature v Nurture. Was this kid destined to be a murderous little bastard no matter what his parents did or could it have been stopped?

It's incredibly sad, but don't for a second think that it was 'those blasted video games' that caused this. That's how a defense attorney thinks in terms of keeping his client out of jail... But it's not actual reality. The kid CHOSE to kill his father. We all makes choices in life. He made the wrong one and will likely rot in jail for the rest of his days because of it. No matter how amazing your parenting, you sometime have to accept that fact that your little angel might still turn out to be a total a**hole.

Yes, even to the point of killing you. Sad, but true.

The only thing a parent can do is look for signs, talk openly and honest with their child on a regular basis and KEEP YOUR DAMNED GUNS LOCKED UP LIKE YOU'RE TOLD. Idiot gun owners doing idiot things... And that's coming from someone (ie, me) who is registered to conceal and carry, having taken numerous weapons courses in my life. I know guns, respect guns and would NEVER allow that kind of access to my child, much less anyone else in this world.



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Old 01-02-2010, 05:41 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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BenjaminNicholas,

What you say is very true!!! Factual and to the point!! There are natural born killers, and some of them are going to be our kids, or our nieces or nephews, or our neighbors kids. I am also registered to carry a concealed weapon and I have taken my daughter to classes and to the range with me, but you will never find my weapons just lying around unlocked where they could be used on my family. Lock up those guns!!!!
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Old 01-02-2010, 09:23 PM
 
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Originally Posted by mission-sundancer View Post
You can't call the boy a punk, he was just a mentally disturbed child who has to live with the truth that he killed his father.
punk 1 (pŭngk) (from dictionary.com)
n. 1.Slang

a.A young person, especially a member of a rebellious counterculture group.

b.An inexperienced young man.


Since I'm the one who called him a punk, I stand by my words. I would say he's a young, rebellious, inexperienced young man. Sorry you don't like that word.

Mental disturbance? I'll say. And that's where his lawyer will go if he bypasses the "Halo made him do it" defense.

He's a punk with a mental disturbance that didn't like daddy's rules. Ironic, considering that from now on he'll be told when he can pee and when he can eat and all sorts of other trivial things that I bet his dad didn't harp on every day.
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Old 01-02-2010, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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Crime happens. Good people do bad things. Nobody knows why this happened and we never will. By the time you read this post, another stupid crime will have occured!
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