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Old 02-19-2010, 07:07 PM
 
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They are all crooks, liars, and thieves with their hands in someone else's pockets ---- its just a matter of deciding who is the least underhanded.
This is so ****ing true. Most if not all politician are just looking out for themselves.

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Old 02-19-2010, 08:02 PM
 
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Toll roads in Houston generate $50 million dollars a year in revenue that is reinvested in Harris County transportation projects.
That's the pretty way to paint those revenues
or they could also be called "$50 million dollars in extra taxes for driving per year"
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Old 02-20-2010, 11:34 AM
 
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Reference to posts on pg 5 or whatever....
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Yeah, well, Glenn Beck is not running for Governor of Texas, so I really don't understand the point of this. Most of his listeners aren't blind followers. They realize he is an entertainer who has an opinion, and they don't necessarily form theirs around his; they have their own.

I know, because I watch Glenn Beck. Not every day, but if it's on and I have a few moments, I'm watching it.
The point is simple. Beck is taking Medina's opinion on 9/11 govt mismanagements and translating that into painting her as a 9/11 truther. That means Beck IS campaigning for Governor, at least on the behalf of Perry and/or KBH.

Below is actually what was said, and below that, a Wiki caption that better illustrates Medina's stance on the subject matter. If Beck is supposed to be just an aw-shucks entertainer, why so many so quick to use his entertainment to decide on their Governor? Nice try on the entertainment angle--not the first time I've heard that one. Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert are entertainers too. Both sides are designed to make everyone take either a blue pill or a red one--and laugh like an ignoramous while we're doing it.


Glenn Beck - Interviews - Interview shocker: Debra Medina
"GLENN: Right. Here's then let me be more frank and ask you the question: Do you believe the government was any way involved with the bringing down of the World Trade Centers on 9/11?

MEDINA: I don't, I don't have all of the evidence there, Glenn. So I don't I'm not in a place, I have not been out publicly questioning that. I think some very good questions have been raised in that regard. There are some very good arguments, and I think the American people have not seen all of the evidence there. So I've not taken a position on that.

GLENN: I think the people of America might think that might be a yes.

MEDINA: Well

GLENN: Do you have advisors, do you have advisor

MEDINA: I'm not going to take a position. "



Wiki Entry on 911 Commission...

In addition, commissioners believed that key agencies of the U.S. government, including The Pentagon, the FAA and NORAD were deliberately deceiving them,[14] and that the CIA was deliberately impeding the work of the commission.[15] On the whole, the chairmen of the commission believed the commission was set up to fail.[13].

References:
13. a b CBC News, August 21, 2006, http://www.cbc.ca/sunday/911hamilton.html (broken link)
14. a b Eggen, Dan (August 2, 2006). "9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon". The Washington Post. Retrieved May 31, 2009.
15. "Panel Study Finds That C.I.A. Withheld Tapes Mark Mazzetti", New York Times, December 21, 2007
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Old 02-20-2010, 01:59 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Honestly, do you think the questions will get any easier if she became governor? If she can't handled loaded and biased questions during the campaign, then how are we suppose to trust that she'll be able to handle the tough decisions she'll have to make in the positions she is campaigning for?

I didn't write Medina off because her poor response to Beck's question, I wrote her off because many of her stances on issues are unrealistic and unobtainable.

Plus, since the news media has become entertainment I don't see why the reverse is such a surprise. As long as it is tied to viewership (and sales), you'll never see objective coverage at any level.

But you are right, the vast majority depend too much on these sources to decide who gets their vote instead of taking the time and effort to research the candidates and issues for themselves. And even if they did, many don't possess the logic and reasoning skills necessary to make the right choice. While the principles of democracy are sound, the practice of it has definite flaws...
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Old 02-20-2010, 05:08 PM
 
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That's the pretty way to paint those revenues
or they could also be called "$50 million dollars in extra taxes for driving per year"
Just to be clear...I didn't write that. It was from the Express News article.
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Old 02-20-2010, 06:17 PM
 
Location: San Antonio-Westover Hills
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Reference to posts on pg 5 or whatever....


The point is simple. Beck is taking Medina's opinion on 9/11 govt mismanagements and translating that into painting her as a 9/11 truther. That means Beck IS campaigning for Governor, at least on the behalf of Perry and/or KBH.
Uh....whatever you say!

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Old 02-21-2010, 12:20 AM
 
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Honestly, do you think the questions will get any easier if she became governor? If she can't handled loaded and biased questions during the campaign, then how are we suppose to trust that she'll be able to handle the tough decisions she'll have to make in the positions she is campaigning for?

I didn't write Medina off because her poor response to Beck's question, I wrote her off because many of her stances on issues are unrealistic and unobtainable.

Plus, since the news media has become entertainment I don't see why the reverse is such a surprise. As long as it is tied to viewership (and sales), you'll never see objective coverage at any level.

But you are right, the vast majority depend too much on these sources to decide who gets their vote instead of taking the time and effort to research the candidates and issues for themselves. And even if they did, many don't possess the logic and reasoning skills necessary to make the right choice. While the principles of democracy are sound, the practice of it has definite flaws...
Good post. I'd agree that she's not handled the drive-by journalism with the best composure. Her responses in content were valid, but her fumbling on words indicated a lack of preparedness--not to be unexpected for a dark horse candidate. As for the follow-up content by Beck--it reminded me of Talladega nights where regardless of the argument, the rebuttal was "shake n bake". I just love how separate conservative media sources take Beck's conclusion to run with "yep, she's a truther" without looking at the context of her reply.

And while Shami was given the same type of improper conclusion treatment by the conservative media spin machine on the 911 "issue", his case as a legitimate candidate really stopped when he dropped the race card. That indicated a complete lack of political savy.

As for unrealistic and unattainable, I offer the case of Rick Perry. I'll give him credit on making the unrealistic vision for TXDOT attainable, but is it sustainable?
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Old 02-22-2010, 11:54 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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If Medina is a "911 truther" her career would be over. If she didn't know that, then she is not Governor material. Hutchison voted for TARP while Bush was still in office but has not voted for any "Stimulus" under Obama...I suspect she voted for TARP for political/party reasons(they didn't want harm Repubicans in the coming election). Still I don't quite trust her either.
Perry has done well for Texas and himself. I don't think he deserves it anymore. There are many things that could be a indication of kickbacks/private funding/a presidential war chest....Toll roads(his refusal to stop txdot), the Texas Building Procurment commission(gave contracts to friends and supporters of Perry), the whole cervical cancer vacination program (once again possible kickbacks from private contractors), the consolodation of the Health & Human Services dept...(Accenture, Maximus, TAA, all private contractors that coould possible give kickbacks).
No Democrat will ever win in Texas...not while we have the "fine" example Obama and company have set. If Democrats want to get rid of the extrememist liberals in their leadership, they might have a chance in 8 years or so...both federal and local.
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Old 02-24-2010, 08:12 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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I think anyone that doubts that Perry has done well over the past 10 years needs to take a hard look at this!
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Old 02-24-2010, 10:10 AM
 
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Since the Wikpedia can has been opened, check this out while you're at it: Rick Perry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not quite the picture of perfect fiscal policy.
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