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Old 05-23-2017, 02:06 PM
 
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Now, how does the quality of life, crime rate, income, etc. in Barstow, Daggett, Lenwood, Yermo, Hinkley, Fort Irwin, Newberry Springs, Baker, Trona, and Needles compare to other various areas in SoCal?
By Comparison, Malibu is nicer than all of those areas.
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Old 05-23-2017, 02:08 PM
 
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Daggett has some neat history from the 1800's with the Silver Mines and the Borax trade and 20 Mule Team runs from Death Valley.
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Old 05-23-2017, 03:51 PM
 
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There's nothing about Indio to talk about.
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There is more to talk about than some of the places you've asked about, might as well post in this forum. Are there still date plantations there? What is Indio's history? How has Coachella & Stagecoach (?) impacted it?
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Old 05-23-2017, 03:56 PM
 
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Lenwood, yes another suburb of Barstow, the actual location of the "outlet malls", and once considered as a location for a casino, but the tribe bailed.

As I remember, Amboy is on old 66. The Amboy Crater is nearby, it's worth a look. There used to be a gas station in Amboy, don't know if it's there anymore.

Nipton was a stop on the road on the way to "the river"...that's all, folks.

Don't you want to know about Trona??
The gas station is pretty much the ONLY thing in Amboy right now.
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Old 05-23-2017, 04:13 PM
 
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Now, how does the quality of life, crime rate, income, etc. in Barstow, Daggett, Lenwood, Yermo, Hinkley, Fort Irwin, Newberry Springs, Baker, Trona, and Needles compare to other various areas in SoCal?


Are you writing a term paper?

All the areas you described above are impoverished Mojave Desert communities that once had much healthier economies. Most of those jobs disappeared. Then along came meth. And thugs. Crime rates are very high. There are also some families who have lived there for generations and are hanging on and are good people. And, it's all surrounded by the Mojave Desert, an amazing place that has been exploited & raped for decades.

And, if you are out there and fortunate enough to see a Gopherus Agassizii, aka California Desert Tortoise, respect its amazingness & leave it alone. Same goes for rattlesnakes, horned toads, chuckwallas, tarantulas & scorpions. I am addressing everyone that reads this, not just Brandon of Indio.

The End.
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Old 05-23-2017, 04:23 PM
 
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Now, how does the quality of life, crime rate, income, etc. in Barstow, Daggett, Lenwood, Yermo, Hinkley, Fort Irwin, Newberry Springs, Baker, Trona, and Needles compare to other various areas in SoCal?
Essentially: "don't wanna live there if you can help it."

Some areas are cool to pass through/by, to visit, whatever. Some people choose to extend their existences there (or maybe the choice is not theirs to make).

And that's pretty much it. Indio has In-N-Out Burger, right?
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Old 05-23-2017, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Jurupa Valley, CA, USA 92509
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Essentially: "don't wanna live there if you can help it."

Some areas are cool to pass through/by, to visit, whatever. Some people choose to extend their existences there (or maybe the choice is not theirs to make).

And that's pretty much it. Indio has In-N-Out Burger, right?
Yup! Nothing can ever beat In-N-Out Burger in terms of fast-food burgers. Nothing like an ol' fashioned Double-Double served with fresh-cut fries and Special Sauce, along with a cold and refreshing soft drink on a HOT day in the desert (or, anywhere in California really)!
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Old 05-23-2017, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Jurupa Valley, CA, USA 92509
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Are you writing a term paper?

All the areas you described above are impoverished Mojave Desert communities that once had much healthier economies. Most of those jobs disappeared. Then along came meth. And thugs. Crime rates are very high. There are also some families who have lived there for generations and are hanging on and are good people. And, it's all surrounded by the Mojave Desert, an amazing place that has been exploited & raped for decades.

And, if you are out there and fortunate enough to see a Gopherus Agassizii, aka California Desert Tortoise, respect its amazingness & leave it alone. Same goes for rattlesnakes, horned toads, chuckwallas, tarantulas & scorpions. I am addressing everyone that reads this, not just Brandon of Indio.

The End.
And let's not forget the owls.
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Old 05-23-2017, 06:21 PM
 
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Are you writing a term paper?

All the areas you described above are impoverished Mojave Desert communities that once had much healthier economies. Most of those jobs disappeared. Then along came meth. And thugs. Crime rates are very high. There are also some families who have lived there for generations and are hanging on and are good people. And, it's all surrounded by the Mojave Desert, an amazing place that has been exploited & raped for decades.

And, if you are out there and fortunate enough to see a Gopherus Agassizii, aka California Desert Tortoise, respect its amazingness & leave it alone. Same goes for rattlesnakes, horned toads, chuckwallas, tarantulas & scorpions. I am addressing everyone that reads this, not just Brandon of Indio.

The End.
Another thing that these communities have in common is that they are well-known to meteorite collectors, since rocks from space have been found near all of the areas mentioned, except for Needles. Not to slight Needles, though, as there are many great fishing spots near that town.

I have seen desert tortoises, but the ones I saw near Amboy were all dead. The cause may have been upper respiratory tract disease.
THE DESERT TORTOISE AND UPPER RESPIRATORY TRACT DISEASE | Desert Tortoise Preserve Committee, Inc.Desert Tortoise Preserve Committee, Inc.
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Old 05-24-2017, 02:06 AM
 
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Another thing that these communities have in common is that they are well-known to meteorite collectors, since rocks from space have been found near all of the areas mentioned, except for Needles. Not to slight Needles, though, as there are many great fishing spots near that town.

I have seen desert tortoises, but the ones I saw near Amboy were all dead. The cause may have been upper respiratory tract disease.
THE DESERT TORTOISE AND UPPER RESPIRATORY TRACT DISEASE | Desert Tortoise Preserve Committee, Inc.Desert Tortoise Preserve Committee, Inc.


Yes, that is true, and it breaks my heart. Many captive-bred tortoises have been released into the wild, expected to fend for themselves, & they can't. They do not know how to forage for food, or deep-burrow for hibernating during cold winters, or shallow-burrow for protection from summer heat. They are reptiles...their bodies can't self-regulate heat & cold. They carry the virus, often transmitted by the family dog, and it then gets transmitted to the wild population, which kills them.

Also, ravens did not exist naturally in the desert...they came to consume garbage left behind by humans. Then, the ravens learned they could flip hatchling tortoises over, peck open their soft undershells, & eat them alive. And then, there are those who decide to roar their off-road vehicles over the fragile habitat in which tortoises lay the eggs of their offspring.

Yay, humans! You are so awesome!
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